Kicker Key Amp 200.4 Install DIY Video - Do this first!

[2022 base]

if you increased the gain on the key, and/or made eq changes in forscan, than the chimes will be obnoxiously loud.

to fix this, I changed the chimes to only play through the instrument cluster (using forscan)

What did you change in forscan to change the chimes?

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[Bubbbba]

This

 

[swamp2]

Pretty sure I read this entire thread. Apologies for any duplication as it has been a bit since I read it all. I know I have at least some valuable tips here.

1. I decided to Forscan the system to no equalization/correction before installing the amp (row 60 in first linked spread sheet here). Just doesn't seem logical to have the new amp effectively double equalized (i.e. in head unit and in Kicker).
2. You really have to pull hard on the HVAC control panel to release the clips. I was definitely concerned I might be breaking clips (really hate doing that...). Just pull straight back and use both hands on multiple edge points. I think I used both hands on one side to just get 1-2 clips to pop and then easy going from there.
3. I don't like the "slice the firewall seal with a box knife" approach to running wires and insuring a water tight seal. I drilled the seal, which barely does anything, but went up in sizes to about 50% or so larger then the power cable, then used the blunt end of the drill to guide the cable through the seal. I'm confident it will be fully watertight.
4. Mounting of amp: Did not use sheet metal screws and no custom plate/bracket nor zip ties needed! Instead 2 socket pan head machine screws with nylock nuts. Just 2 (of the 4) on a diagonal cinched the amp down to the removable steel panel just under the steering wheel. Many reported sacrificing some vertical steering wheel adjustability. I was able to avoid this entirely with careful placement of the amp as shown below. It's just slightly off parallel to the edges and stiffener channels in the plate. I ran the dip switch side of the amp facing the passenger side. Pics below should help.
   
   
   
5. The subwoofer must be disconnected to run the auto setup using the microphone. If not, after the auto setup process you will get the "sad tones" with 4 beeps after repeating indicating "Auto EQ failed" (manual not helpful...). The quickest way to effectively disconnect the sub is to pull fuse 146.
6. It is not in the Kicker manual but managed to dig up the gain set procedure somewhere, which is: Play a familiar song louder and louder (via head unit volume) until you hear distortion then back off just enough to eliminate the distortion. Next while head unit is still at this max "clean" volume, turn up the amp gain (you should have zeroed both gains on amp prior to auto setup with mic) until distortion comes again, back off gain slightly until it goes away. There are yellow LED lights that come on and seem to coincide with the onset of distortion. These are called the "LIMITER LED". Do the same for each of the 2 gain adjusters. Procedure in manual is similar but not identical.
7. Profit. Like most others, I do not see the need to replace any of the factory speakers, sub or sub amp after this upgrade.

 

[SkyKing]

You don’t need forscan if you get the kicker key you can turn the rears up loud as you want with the rear gain on the amp. I thought the factory sound was better then the kickers DSP tune so I flipped that dip switch to off. It has more of a full sound with it turned off. I recommend driving some in real life conditions when your making your setting changes on the amp. You can just loosely mount it under the steering wheel and pull over somewhere to make changes on it. You’ll want to turn the gains all the way down on the front and just barely turn up the rear or your warning chimes and seatbelt chimes will be super loud. If you turn the rear gain up too high they will be louder than the fronts. I have mine set to the letter A in amp. You’ll also get a static sound even when the radio is off if your gains are too high so you’ll want to turn them down till it’s gone or acceptable to you. I had this in another car and it did the same thing with the static noise. I researched it more last night and it seems like it’s pretty common if gains are too high while using a factor radio but no big deal it still sounds great and added much more power to the speakers. I have jl audio 4” in my dash and the vibrate like crazy on certain songs now after the amp install I will probably try some base blockers before I switch them out to something else. I did try the crossover but it took little too much bass out so I ended up leaving it off. Over all I’m pretty happy with the kicker key my last car I soldered all the wires behind the radio and it was no fun but with this plug and play harness it was a joy to install.

This tip just totally change my sound. I have updgraded the rear pods to 6.5" coaxials and done forescan, EQ, Kicker key setup steps etc. but was still disappointed at how little sound came out of them. And, when I faded rear, it has the effect of reducing the output to my hidden sub on the Kicker 500.1. But by boosting gain on "amp 2 (the rear pods), the sound stage is sooooo much more full. I have the gains at almost zero on the 200.4 and the 500.1 sub is at about 50% gain.

 

[Neglektor]

Can someone please share their kicker key switch settings? Does the radio button need to be out or in? Struggling after upgrading all speakers and using plug and play kicker key 200.4 from package A. Results worse than factory using pink noise on USB device to run DSP as recommended. I feel like I’m doing something wrong.
Speed compensated volume off. Set to all occupants.
All switches down except kicker EQ. High pass set to 60hz

 

[ILoveToDrive]

Can someone please share their kicker key switch settings? Does the radio button need to be out or in? Struggling after upgrading all speakers and using plug and play kicker key 200.4 from package A. Results worse than factory using pink noise on USB device to run DSP as recommended. I feel like I’m doing something wrong.
Speed compensated volume off. Set to all occupants.
All switches down except kicker EQ. High pass set to 60hz

I’m running all switches up except the first for dc. I’ve tried every imaginable combination.
Make sure gains are completely backed off, and forscan has Eq at 00 and front and rears are Sp/Tw. If you’re running a sub, I find it easier to pull the fuse than turn it off with Forscan.
When you adjust the gain, use kicker’s 0db gain match file. I set the volume to a barely tolerable level and adjusted the gains until the light came on then backed it off a hair. Don’t use the gains to balance the front and rear. Use you fader control for that.
I wasn’t happy until I finally caved and upgraded the kick panels. Like the commercial says, just okay is not okay. HUGE improvement in the overall sound quality.
My pods are upgraded to 6 3/4 Polk audios, dash is 4” Polk’s, and the kick panels are Focal 165’s.
I never used the DSL kicker settings because it was better without. Now, having done it the way I described, the DSP made a dramatic improvement.

 

[Neglektor]

I’m running all switches up except the first for dc. I’ve tried every imaginable combination.
Make sure gains are completely backed off, and forscan has Eq at 00 and front and rears are Sp/Tw. If you’re running a sub, I find it easier to pull the fuse than turn it off with Forscan.
When you adjust the gain, use kicker’s 0db gain match file. I set the volume to a barely tolerable level and adjusted the gains until the light came on then backed it off a hair. Don’t use the gains to balance the front and rear. Use you fader control for that.
I wasn’t happy until I finally caved and upgraded the kick panels. Like the commercial says, just okay is not okay. HUGE improvement in the overall sound quality.
My pods are upgraded to 6 3/4 Polk audios, dash is 4” Polk’s, and the kick panels are Focal 165’s.
I never used the DSL kicker settings because it was better without. Now, having done it the way I described, the DSP made a dramatic improvement.

Thank you! Sounds much better now. left off the biamp wiring switch since dont have that harness and kept the rears as tweeters only in Forscan. The 4” weren’t handling bass well.
Going to need a sub to really get this thing sounding acceptable. Has no low end with the small speakers

 

[murphtron]

Can someone please share their kicker key switch settings? Does the radio button need to be out or in? Struggling after upgrading all speakers and using plug and play kicker key 200.4 from package A. Results worse than factory using pink noise on USB device to run DSP as recommended. I feel like I’m doing something wrong.
Speed compensated volume off. Set to all occupants.
All switches down except kicker EQ. High pass set to 60hz

Yeah, right here
https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/my-diy-audio-upgrade-6-speaker-to-7-speaker.80340/

 

[mdube72]

@TheShark - how did you end up liking the PowerBass OE652-FD ? Did you have the B&O or the non-B&O system from the factory ?

 

[TheShark]

@TheShark - how did you end up liking the PowerBass OE652-FD ? Did you have the B&O or the non-B&O system from the factory ?

Oh my gosh, that brought back a memory. I had the Powerbass speakers on my '21 OBX, it had the mid package so no B&O. I'm not a audiophile but they were a big upgrade to the cheap OEM speakers of the non-B&O. I did like the plug and play nature of them, since they are made as direct replacements of Ford stock speakers they come with plug adapters.

 

[Akinmx]

Question... any help is greatly appreciated!

I installed my kicker key 200.4 today. Watched several videos and was fully prepared, lol. I used the Plug N Play wiring harness and it was a breeze. I have it mounted under the steering wheel, ran the positive battery cable to the battery, ground wire to the metal brace bolt where the amp is...

Ran the DSP program and everything is great! Superior sound! I love it!

But... now my SiriusXM does not work. At all. It says "Hardware Problem" on the home screen for Sirius. I can't even look up my radio ID because the Bronco can't detect it.

Has anyone encountered this problem? The regular radio works fine, I can stream music from my phone no problem, but Sirius does not work at all. Do you think its a problem with the wiring harness? I plugged everything in I was supposed to.

Ugh. Frustrated. Help!!!

 

[Pugsly]

Question... any help is greatly appreciated!

I installed my kicker key 200.4 today. Watched several videos and was fully prepared, lol. I used the Plug N Play wiring harness and it was a breeze. I have it mounted under the steering wheel, ran the positive battery cable to the battery, ground wire to the metal brace bolt where the amp is...

Ran the DSP program and everything is great! Superior sound! I love it!

But... now my SiriusXM does not work. At all. It says "Hardware Problem" on the home screen for Sirius. I can't even look up my radio ID because the Bronco can't detect it.

Has anyone encountered this problem? The regular radio works fine, I can stream music from my phone no problem, but Sirius does not work at all. Do you think its a problem with the wiring harness? I plugged everything in I was supposed to.

Ugh. Frustrated. Help!!!

Sounds like you might have pulled out the satellite antenna.

 

[Akinmx]

Sounds like you might have pulled out the satellite antenna.

Yeah... I'm at a complete loss. I only unplugged 2 connections under the radio (is that the ECM?) I unplugged the gray one to move a wire bundle out of the way then plugged it back in. And I unplugged the black one that I then connected to the plug n play wiring harness.

I tried looking online to find out where the satellite antenna plugs in and can't find it anywhere. Guess I'll open it all up again tomorrow and check my connections?

Ugh

 

[PghBronco]

Yeah... I'm at a complete loss. I only unplugged 2 connections under the radio (is that the ECM?) I unplugged the gray one to move a wire bundle out of the way then plugged it back in. And I unplugged the black one that I then connected to the plug n play wiring harness.

I tried looking online to find out where the satellite antenna plugs in and can't find it anywhere. Guess I'll open it all up again tomorrow and check my connections?

Ugh

Double check your connections. Disconnect everything then slowly reconnect. See my next post.

 

[PghBronco]

Finally after 3 years decided to get a key from another user On the forum. Everything works great watched videos etc. prior to the key install (kit 11) I had kickers installed in the dash (150mhz blockers) and focals in the kick panel and I have 6.5 in the back with kicker (ks) paired with an 8inch custom sub box that I did powered by a mono alpine 500w amp. The sound was good but it was definitely lacking when the top and doors off.
Key install: I ran it like everyone else (don’t reinvent the wheel) plugged in all connections and unplugged my fuse and rca cables to sub, turned on electronics….. nothing no sound. Immediately assumed second hand amp broken. I tore back into the cables and checked my connections. Those were fine… amp wasn’t grounded. Fixed that still nothing. Unplugged the amp and check. Now I have power.

called crutchfield for dip switches. Ended up copying this posts setup. Ran pink noise on Spotify with CarPlay not usb (imo that’s the best I can do Bluetooth quality is way different than CarPlay for some reason) it ran the auto tune with all speakers I did enable full range to the rear speakers a long time. Ago and with the amp I wanted more power to the regular speakers without the sub. Once complete reconnect sub and it’s god awfully flat. Horribly flat. Then I remembered to make the eq neutral, checked that remembered when unplugging battery settings divert to factory. No need to retune. Still flat. I did not want to mess with the gain but that’s what I ended up doing. Cranked the volume to 15 and increased the back then the front and I guess it’s better

I see people post that the key is the path to the best sound ever. And idk if it’s all what it’s hyped up to be. Maybe mine isn’t tuned properly if anyone has input that I can check or fine tune I’m all ears. In the vehicle tune settings I had to turn down my treble a bunch. Less than half.

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