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My gutt is telling me that is Dana Spicer parts likely Ford performance (and warranty) versions of the Ultimate Data 44 AdvanTEK front drive unit.
I notice it says you have to get new axle shafts with that part, but the axle shafts don't have any details about them. My guess is they are 32 spline, as I bet that diff has 32 spline side gears.

Of course If you do that, you'll need the same 5.13 rear gears in the rear, and I'm not sure where you would get that. The Spicer Dana 60 axle they have for the bronco doesn't show a 5.13 gear.
 

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It just the M210 with 5.13 gears installed. They are a special order item that takes 1-2 weeks to get.

Not worth $900 for one step lower gears than the 4.7 diff.

Yeah, but the market is for people with M190s, no front locker, and 4.46 or higher gears. It is certainly worth it for me, especially if they will include the M220 in 5.13s.

@LethalPerformance needs to sell this as a package deal with both axles and Procal like they do for the 4.70 and 4.46 gears. I'll order today if they make this an option.
 

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I haven't run the gearing charts in awhile, but surprised there's no love for the 5.38's here, especially if you're looking at 37's.

I did see the part numbers for all of this somewhere recently ... I'll dig around.
 

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Damn salty !!!

The 4.70 gear set up M210 is $1965, which of course, used ones will be all over the market as these roll out. They'd never sell a new one at $2950, which is where every other gear ratio is priced.
All the various set ups are available.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-3002-538BF

The part description and instruction PDF here has all the FDU's and rear axles listed.
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-14489-BR



and for an extra $2k more, the Spicer Ultimates are out there!

Shop around, Levittown has it for a grand less.
LOL posted as I was typing!!! Have to check it out!!
 

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It just the M210 with 5.13 gears installed. They are a special order item that takes 1-2 weeks to get.

Not worth $900 for one step lower gears than the 4.7 diff.
It's almost a perfect correction to maintain the same RPM/MPH on 37s as stock Sasquatch. I would rather have 5.38 if I was laying out the cash though, the 2.3 likes a little extra gear.
 

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I haven't run the gearing charts in awhile, but surprised there's no love for the 5.38's here, especially if you're looking at 37's.

I did see the part numbers for all of this somewhere recently ... I'll dig around.

There's plenty of love for the 5.38 in the Dana 44. I'm just looking to replace both axles with the M210 for the price of the Dana alone. Several here have switched to the Dana.
 

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It's almost a perfect correction to maintain the same RPM/MPH on 37s as stock Sasquatch. I would rather have 5.38 if I was laying out the cash though, the 2.3 likes a little extra gear.
100% agree, the 2.3 likes to spin.
My Base/manual/4.46 on 35's really loves 5th gear on the hiways. 6th Gear is essentially unusable, causes it to boost hard, which SLAUGHTERS fuel mileage.

At 80mph , 5th gear, it is around 2700 rpm and is happy and rewards me with pretty decent fuel mileage for two stacked bricks on 35's. LOL

That's why I'd always jump one gear ratio higher to get as close to 2700rpm @ 80mph as possible, which is a bit higher than the most of the factory set ups.
 
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There's plenty of love for the 5.38 in the Dana 44. I'm just looking to replace both axles with the M210 for the price of the Dana alone. Several here have switched to the Dana.
I have 3.73 Open Diff. So for me it would make sense to make the upgrade.
 

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I have 3.73 Open Diff. So for me it would make sense to make the upgrade.

Yeah, was hoping @LethalPerformance would chime in on the rear axle situation. If they would combine the 5.13 M210 with a 5.13 M220 and Procal like they currently have with the 4.70 and 4.46, I would buy.

Won't make a lot of sales of the 5.13 M210 if there is no rear axle solution to go with it.
 

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@lethaljake @LethalPerformance

So any insight for rear axle solutions with this 5.13 FDU? It's a great option, but needs a rear axle solution to go with it. Will you be offering one?
 

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