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You will have a hard time finding someone who will straighten the bracket, they would be liable if it fails in the future. Most shops won’t clip a frame either for the same reason. The only reason clips are available is that Texas requires the title to be branded if the frame is replaced, but not if it is sectioned. That makes no sense, but that’s their law. A whole frame is the only way to fix it and it won’t cost much more, if any.MB3Z-5019-N is going to be about your only option as far as part is concerned, short of the full frame.
Would need to see how bad it is before suggesting just having the ears pulled on a frame rack. "Technically", you aren't supposed to do repairs, short of sections, according to the OEM. Just making some assumptions about the damage, it being my own personal vehicle, I'd likely try to have the ears pulled back into shape. That's assuming they aren't folded over and the frame lasers out good everywhere else, crossmember isn't caved in and ears don't crack or tear during the pull. Would avoid heating like we did decades ago when we straightened the "normal" steel frames.
The front clip has a list price of almost $4,400 and can easily see 30+ hours to replace correctly.
Pics would help but it's either a minor job or, awwwww f.
these just showed up yesterday
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And installed. Not proud of these welds in any capacity. Doesn’t help that I don’t know shit about welding, but to compound the badness whilst laying on my side the sunlight coming through the mask acted as a mirror, so while trying to see what I’m working on all I see is my stupid confused face staring back at me 
Does anyone else get super worried about welding on these new rigs and disconnect both battery terminals plus all the ECU connections then keep the ground as close as possible to the work? Might be overkill but I just don’t want to fry something
Does anyone else get super worried about welding on these new rigs and disconnect both battery terminals plus all the ECU connections then keep the ground as close as possible to the work? Might be overkill but I just don’t want to fry something
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I would definitely be taking that in for someone to do. I can't weld, and if I tried would probably roll over and pull the ground off and FRIIIIZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIPPP!And installed. Not proud of these welds in any capacity. Doesn’t help that I don’t know shit about welding, but to compound the badness whilst laying on my side the sunlight coming through the mask acted as a mirror, so while trying to see what I’m working on all I see is my stupid confused face staring back at me
Does anyone else get super worried about welding on these new rigs and disconnect both battery terminals plus all the ECU connections then keep the ground as close as possible to the work? Might be overkill but I just don’t want to fry something
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Respectfully disagree, wasn’t hard for me to find someone and as long as it’s heated up, bent back and then reinforced it’s even stronger then original. The only way the factory would warranty them though is by replacing the frame. They don’t do frame repairs at dealerships. This fix (I see it as an upgrade) cost me a few hundred dollars with welding and bending. Way cheaper then a frame. Nothing was cracked, just bent so it’s not in danger of falling off.
You have to be cautious heating and welding on modern frames, they are high strength steel, not mild steel as they have been the past. Heating high strength alloys and not cooling them properly can affect the strength. I would be particularly concerned on a small piece that is under a big load, especially when it holds a front wheel on. The factory won’t support those kinds of repairs on frames for liability reasons, they never perform warranty on damaged components unless the damage was caused by the failure of a warrantable part that caused the damage.
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Not really likely, Chrysler got hammered several years ago for not properly disclosing damage on new cars. They would scrap the car and build another one. They build 50 Broncos an hour, it’s cheaper to build one than face the consequences of selling a damaged car.
I write Crash estimates 5 days a week.
also have and can do accident reconstruction
Also done first hand resto-mod 4x4’s welding and fabrication.
last time i commented i was told i dont know anything.
if you dont know get several opinions. And Id ask around local and have someone explain in terms you can understand and accept BEFORE i call an insurance company.
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Also done first hand resto-mod 4x4’s welding and fabrication.
last time i commented i was told i dont know anything.
if you dont know get several opinions. And Id ask around local and have someone explain in terms you can understand and accept BEFORE i call an insurance company.
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looks good! dont forget to weld these slots also and grind flush, much of the peel strength comes from those slots.And installed. Not proud of these welds in any capacity. Doesn’t help that I don’t know shit about welding, but to compound the badness whilst laying on my side the sunlight coming through the mask acted as a mirror, so while trying to see what I’m working on all I see is my stupid confused face staring back at me
Does anyone else get super worried about welding on these new rigs and disconnect both battery terminals plus all the ECU connections then keep the ground as close as possible to the work? Might be overkill but I just don’t want to fry something
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And installed. Not proud of these welds in any capacity. Doesn’t help that I don’t know shit about welding, but to compound the badness whilst laying on my side the sunlight coming through the mask acted as a mirror, so while trying to see what I’m working on all I see is my stupid confused face staring back at me
Does anyone else get super worried about welding on these new rigs and disconnect both battery terminals plus all the ECU connections then keep the ground as close as possible to the work? Might be overkill but I just don’t want to fry something
Do a lot of welding in our shop. As soon as someone picks up the welder you can hear "Did you disconnect the battery".
I've hear of others disconnecting the ECM have never done it myself. I did have one scenario similar to that though.Had a customer at the battery shop, where I work part time, had a battery issue that never had one before. This happens more than you might think. First question. Did you leave something on?? Second question has been in the shop lately for an extended period of time??? Bingo!!! It was at a body shop.
Bad answer. Not to knock body shop but it is the nature of the business. Door hangs wide open for hours at a time, leaving the dome light to burn away, and no one disconnects the battery cable. Anyway, we charged his battery, but he came back in a couple weeks with a dead battery. What did they fix on the truck??? The rockers. Ok so inside the truck is different control modules. if they welded close to one of those, not good. So we set up and started pulling fuses to see if we could kill the draw. Sure enough, power window fuse. First suspect, body control module. Customer went back to the body shop, explained what we had told him. Sure enough BCM was on the back of the cab behind the rear seat. Got enough juice to fry it and cause a big draw on the battery. Body shop replaced the BCM. A month later the customer stopped by and said all was good, no problems since, and wanted to thank us for helping him. It's about not selling you a battery if you don't need one bud.
So it can happen. Keep that grounding clamp as close to work as possible. Check to see if a ground cable or control module is nearby. If it is, unplug it to be safe.
Awe man. I filled those in on the first one then needed to grind them down so as not interfere with the alignment bolts. Started thinking I was over complicating things by filling those in and didn’t do the rest.looks good! dont forget to weld these slots also and grind flush, much of the peel strength comes from those slots.
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