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After many hours of research I have some information that is going to make your draws drop but its about time!!!
I have a car dealers license but I dont sell cars, or at least only help good friends find one at the auction etc but dont make money off friends.
As most know the Auction is the heart beat of the car World , dealers buy there if they dont get enough trade ins and then sell auction cars usually shooting for a minimum of 10-20 percent profit or more.
The auction results for the Bronco are nothing I have ever seen before. We watched the Corvettes Sell like hot cakes, used car prices are up due to supply vs demand.
Jeep is killing it with the 392 V8 but the Bronco is handing the car dealers their ass to themselves.
The numbers are so obvious and consistent Nationwide.
BEFORE YOU READ BELOW PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT BRONCO MADE A HUGE MISTAKE BY ALLOWING THE SASQUACH PACKEDGE COME ON EVERY LEVEL OF BRONCO. YOU NOTICE THAT THEIR WRANGLER RUBICON HAS ALWAYS SOLD CLOSE TO OR AT STICKER IF THEY HAD ONE AT ALL. NOW THE V8 EXTREME RECON EDITION IS OUT AND THEY ARE ALMOST ALL GONE FROM THE DEALER LOTS IN THE FIRST 30 DAYS
FORD SHOULD HAVE AT A MINIMUM HELD OFF ON THE SASQUACH EDITION OR AS AN OPTION FOR 6 MONTHS AFTER THE LAUNCH BUT MADE IT AS A LAUNCH FEATURE.
This is what has happened-
The dealer screwed people with deposits, ordered cars in friends names and all their normal games. They are trying to charge over sticker premiums and they are buying over sticker at the auctions for First Edition Broncos.
But guess what???
The consumers are flipping them the bird and they are not playing in to it which is great.
The average price a car is sold for at auction is referred to as the MMR and while we dont have the time to analyze every car and every option dealers just have to take an average for that model and the computer generates the MMR.
A dealer wants to sell way above mmr and buy at auction as far below as they can.
Ok here comes the good news.
The MMR on a first edition was 75-87k when they first hit the streets, there are now 245 Broncos on the dealer to dealer website the they try to horse trade with one another or they eventually run them down the lane to be sold.
However, the asking price of the Dealer to Dealer interactions is not only lower than the MMR they paid on the buy side, but they are also offering a make offer in addition to the sell at a loss price.
CAR DEALERS DONT SELL AT A LOSS BUT IF THEY DO IN THIS CASE THEY WONT DO IT WITH THE CONSUMER BECAUSE THEN THE GIG IS UP!!!
The sell side of First Editions is 60-70 depending on 2 or 4 doors.
and when I say 60-70 I mean like 61-62 to 71-72
First editions sticker in many cases for high fiftys
In a nutshell Americnas are fighting back, they are not paying premiums and it appears they are using the dealers own games back at them.
If this continues the sell over MSRP scenario will stop (if it has ever even started) and hopefully the car market in general will cool off.
I can not remember ever a time when this exact scenario ever happed but all I can say is KEEP IT UP AMERICANS!!!!!!
and dont worry about the losses, you all have made plenty go money over the years
NOTE- as a Bronco buyer, if your name has been on the list and you were only buying it to flip it. You might want to think twice about that purchase.
I have a car dealers license but I dont sell cars, or at least only help good friends find one at the auction etc but dont make money off friends.
As most know the Auction is the heart beat of the car World , dealers buy there if they dont get enough trade ins and then sell auction cars usually shooting for a minimum of 10-20 percent profit or more.
The auction results for the Bronco are nothing I have ever seen before. We watched the Corvettes Sell like hot cakes, used car prices are up due to supply vs demand.
Jeep is killing it with the 392 V8 but the Bronco is handing the car dealers their ass to themselves.
The numbers are so obvious and consistent Nationwide.
BEFORE YOU READ BELOW PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT BRONCO MADE A HUGE MISTAKE BY ALLOWING THE SASQUACH PACKEDGE COME ON EVERY LEVEL OF BRONCO. YOU NOTICE THAT THEIR WRANGLER RUBICON HAS ALWAYS SOLD CLOSE TO OR AT STICKER IF THEY HAD ONE AT ALL. NOW THE V8 EXTREME RECON EDITION IS OUT AND THEY ARE ALMOST ALL GONE FROM THE DEALER LOTS IN THE FIRST 30 DAYS
FORD SHOULD HAVE AT A MINIMUM HELD OFF ON THE SASQUACH EDITION OR AS AN OPTION FOR 6 MONTHS AFTER THE LAUNCH BUT MADE IT AS A LAUNCH FEATURE.
This is what has happened-
The dealer screwed people with deposits, ordered cars in friends names and all their normal games. They are trying to charge over sticker premiums and they are buying over sticker at the auctions for First Edition Broncos.
But guess what???
The consumers are flipping them the bird and they are not playing in to it which is great.
The average price a car is sold for at auction is referred to as the MMR and while we dont have the time to analyze every car and every option dealers just have to take an average for that model and the computer generates the MMR.
A dealer wants to sell way above mmr and buy at auction as far below as they can.
Ok here comes the good news.
The MMR on a first edition was 75-87k when they first hit the streets, there are now 245 Broncos on the dealer to dealer website the they try to horse trade with one another or they eventually run them down the lane to be sold.
However, the asking price of the Dealer to Dealer interactions is not only lower than the MMR they paid on the buy side, but they are also offering a make offer in addition to the sell at a loss price.
CAR DEALERS DONT SELL AT A LOSS BUT IF THEY DO IN THIS CASE THEY WONT DO IT WITH THE CONSUMER BECAUSE THEN THE GIG IS UP!!!
The sell side of First Editions is 60-70 depending on 2 or 4 doors.
and when I say 60-70 I mean like 61-62 to 71-72
First editions sticker in many cases for high fiftys
In a nutshell Americnas are fighting back, they are not paying premiums and it appears they are using the dealers own games back at them.
If this continues the sell over MSRP scenario will stop (if it has ever even started) and hopefully the car market in general will cool off.
I can not remember ever a time when this exact scenario ever happed but all I can say is KEEP IT UP AMERICANS!!!!!!
and dont worry about the losses, you all have made plenty go money over the years
NOTE- as a Bronco buyer, if your name has been on the list and you were only buying it to flip it. You might want to think twice about that purchase.
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