Updated 2.3L coming?

[McLovin80]

I think you and I were looking up the same thing, here's the thread on the Ford offering

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/ford-performance-air-oil-separator.74053/

I'm not very knowledgeable on this topic but doesn't the 2.3 already have an AOS? Lots of back and forth on the catch cans but with my own 2.3 on the way I be want do my best to keep it clean.

I need to research the 2.3 more, but doubtful it has one stock.

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[l88m22vette]

There is a factory air-oil separator as part of the PCV oil breather plate on the engine block, behind the throttle body. There is an add-on for the block breather as well, but its made for the Mustang and is the same thing with different hoses: https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6766-A23

Here is a Ford PCV diagram, note how both have built-in separators. Part-load is likely normal driving (vacuum), while full-load would be hard driving (boost):

From Monotune:

Here is a pic from IAG's website, it sure looks like a catch can...I'd prefer something like a Grimmspeed AOS, which is basically no fuss.

 

[McLovin80]

There is a factory air-oil separator as part of the PCV oil breather plate on the engine block, behind the throttle body. There is an add-on for the block breather as well, but its made for the Mustang and is the same thing with different hoses: https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6766-A23

Here is a Ford PCV diagram, note how both have built-in separators. Part-load is likely normal driving (vacuum), while full-load would be hard driving (boost):

From Monotune:

Here is a pic from IAG's website, it sure looks like a catch can...I'd prefer something like a Grimmspeed AOS, which is basically no fuss.

Appreciate the info!

 

[Willub]

The "BIG" advantage w/the port/direct injection combo is due to the problem w/the carbon buildup on the valves w/the present direct injection system.
The valves don't get washed off w/direct injection, as they do w/the port injection.
So it's a combination of the best of both worlds.
Toyota has been using this combo for a while now.

The best way presently to keep the valves free of the carbon w/the present direct injection system, as best you can that is, is to:
1. Use a good detergent Tier 3 Fuel like Chevron w/its Techron.
2. Perhaps the most important thing, not to do shorties around town, especially in the winter, which don't allow for the engine to get up to full operating temperature. Take her on the highway in order to get her up to the full operating temperature.
Add some Techron additive to the fuel tank once a month.

Please explain why a “tier 3” fuel or a fuel additive would help against carbon buildup on the back of an intake valve.

 

[The Pope]

Please explain why a “tier 3” fuel or a fuel additive would help against carbon buildup on the back of an intake valve.

With the current DI, no fuel (Tier 3 or additives) will wash off the build-up that the PCV can introduce into the airstream, which tend to adhere to the upstream side of the intake valve.

This isn't the cast with PI, as it will introduce fuel to the upstream side of the intake valve and by doing so, helps to clean the upstream side of the intake valve.

 

[mjcutri]

I bet they are waiting for the MY25 refresh to put the updated 2.3 into

 

[McLovin80]

I bet they are waiting for the MY25 refresh to put the updated 2.3 into

Based on the current rate of production that would be 2030

 

[The Pope]

I bet they are waiting for the MY25 refresh to put the updated 2.3 into

I agree.....

So.... will the MY25 be a true G7 or just a G6.5?

I'm hoping for a True G7.
I guess that I should start a "What's you wish list for MY25?" thread...... maybe later.... kinda want to see the MY24s out and about, along with buyer comments.

 

[GoHack]

I wouldn't be too anxious for the first new updated 2.3L.

Too high a probability of problems.

 

[mattymik]

The "BIG" advantage w/the port/direct injection combo is due to the problem w/the carbon buildup on the valves w/the present direct injection system.
The valves don't get washed off w/direct injection, as they do w/the port injection.
So it's a combination of the best of both worlds.
Toyota has been using this combo for a while now.

The best way presently to keep the valves free of the carbon w/the present direct injection system, as best you can that is, is to:
1. Use a good detergent Tier 3 Fuel like Chevron w/its Techron.
2. Perhaps the most important thing, not to do shorties around town, especially in the winter, which don't allow for the engine to get up to full operating temperature. Take her on the highway in order to get her up to the full operating temperature.
Add some Techron additive to the fuel tank once a month.

If I take a “shortie” to get Techron gas, does this negate the problems caused by the shortie?

What if I take a “longie” with leaded gasoline?

 

[Ducati1098]

I wouldn't be too anxious for the first new updated 2.3L.

Too high a probability of problems.

I don’t think there’s a whole lot different other than the addition of port injectors.

 

[GoHack]

I don’t think there’s a whole lot different other than the addition of port injectors.

I wouldn't count on it.

Besides too, there is certain to be software changes as well.

Then too, there will be more injectors as well, four for the direct injection, and four for the ports.

 

[Ducati1098]

I wouldn't count on it.

Besides too, there is certain to be software changes as well.

Then too, there will be more injectors as well, four for the direct injection, and four for the ports.

It's got a new EGR cooler on the back of the engine also, either way nothing I would be super worried about as far as a change in reliability

 

[GoHack]

There is a factory air-oil separator as part of the PCV oil breather plate on the engine block, behind the throttle body. There is an add-on for the block breather as well, but its made for the Mustang and is the same thing with different hoses: https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6766-A23.

Here is a Ford PCV diagram, note how both have built-in separators. Part-load is likely normal driving (vacuum), while full-load would be hard driving (boost):

From Monotune:

Here is a pic from IAG's website, it sure looks like a catch can...I'd prefer something like a Grimmspeed AOS, which is basically no fuss.

Appreciate the info!

How good is this factory air-oil separator as part of the PCV oil breather plate?




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[Rusty Sheckelford]

I agree.....

So.... will the MY25 be a true G7 or just a G6.5?

I'm hoping for a True G7.
I guess that I should start a "What's you wish list for MY25?" thread...... maybe later.... kinda want to see the MY24s out and about, along with buyer comments.

no way they are going to do a big expensive new generation after only 5 years, especially with how well this is selling. I think we'll be lucky to get the mid-generation refresh. Square fenders, updated motor all seem likely, maybe a few other low-cost surprises entice us holdouts? (Not that it's needed)

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