We're over that now, this is the new GIF:SFA's can be heavy...... just saying..... (bring on the CHAIRS!!!!)
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We're over that now, this is the new GIF:SFA's can be heavy...... just saying..... (bring on the CHAIRS!!!!)
And yet 11 year ago, GM made a 7.0 L sports car that weighed 3140,We can wish all we want. Doesn't mean it'll happen. That's less than my Focus. 4-4.5k (depending on door config.) seems realistic for the Bronco in my opinion.
Was some talk of full alum body a while back. That make it to production?
A lot has changed in 11 years....And yet 11 year ago, GM made a 7.0 L sports car that weighed 3140,
fully loaded with 325/275 tires and monster brakes.
Yeah, I have one. Don't forget it's got an aluminum frame and suspension, magnesium engine subframe, aluminum driveshaft, cfrp body panels, manually adjustable passenger seat and a balsa wood floor (yes, really). They did a lot to get the weight down so far over a base C6 (3400lbs) while adding those big brakes and dry sump oil system, much of which we wouldn't want on an off-roader in the name of durability.And yet 11 year ago, GM made a 7.0 L sports car that weighed 3140,
fully loaded with 325/275 tires and monster brakes.
I had a fairly durable jeep cj that had a 2x4 to replace a couple body mounts. Durable, yes, safe? Hell no! But yeah that is the real problem with modern cars they are fat. Im hoping in the coming decades we will start seeing lighter materials that are plenty durable. I think thats why and how the current horsepower wars are even allowed to be happening. If Ford would have produced a 760hp mustang in 1969 and unleashed it on the streets with their safety of the time, the whole company would have been sued into oblivion and they executives locked up for accessory to manslaughter. But with todays safety innovations we can get around it. Unfortunatly for us HP wont always get you out of a mud hole you sunk to your frame in. But thats why all the mall crawlers have winches and hi lifts. Anyways weight is the enemy and the savior. Hopefully the Bronco was built to balance the 2.Yeah, I have one. Don't forget it's got an aluminum frame and suspension, magnesium engine subframe, aluminum driveshaft, cfrp body panels, manually adjustable passenger seat and a balsa wood floor (yes, really). They did a lot to get the weight down so far over a base C6 (3400lbs) while adding those big brakes and dry sump oil system, much of which we wouldn't want on an off-roader in the name of durability.
We'll probably never see a corvette that light again, modern safety standards and equipment add weight.
I'm still hopeful the Bronco won't be too much heavier than a Rubicon. If they can keep it below 4500lbs for the highest spec 2 door with the manual trans I'll be ok. Closer to 4000 would be preferable. I'm still disappointed that it reportedly will only have aluminum moving panels (doors, hood, swinggate) rather than the whole body.
Sure, and even the C8 is 3366 lbs. I get it that the vette startsA lot has changed in 11 years....
Follow-up question: why would the curb weight be more than the 4500lb Ranger which is longer?Wait....are you saying the number I pulled directly out of my backside a couple of days ago is actually correct/close? Or are you just using that number to troll people? I'm cool with it either way. I just want to know.
More windows. More internal structural support. All the extra sheet metal that encloses that which would be the bed on a Ranger.Follow-up question: why would the curb weight be more than the 4500lb Ranger which is longer?
CUZ BRONCO IS GONNA BE T H I C CFollow-up question: why would the curb weight be more than the 4500lb Ranger which is longer?
I would expect it to be a bit heavier than the Ranger just because there's body panels and structure over where the open bed on the Ranger would be. I thought I was overestimating at 5k. 4600-4800ish was more what I was actually expecting.Follow-up question: why would the curb weight be more than the 4500lb Ranger which is longer?