I wonder if I can ‘opt out’ of the 4G connectivity on a new vehicle. If not, I’m breaking out the flux pen and soldering iron and removing a WiFi board
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What if the bank owns half of it still, do they have access? It is wrecked, the insurance company owns it now, is the data stored theirs now? You turn on the radio the first time and hit okay to a privacy policy pop up notice giving your data to Ford (or buried in the sales contract), or you pair your phone and give it permission to interact, or whatever. The data is not yours any more then the cell phone data is. If a warrant is served to access your phone data, they don't serve it to you, they serve the cell phone company or carrier. If you are counting on data generated by you too bring to you exclusively, I suspect your are going to be disappointed.If it is "your" car, then your data is private to you since it's pat of your property
I really don't think that all the black box talk is for government spy programs or for insurance to screw me over somehow. it's all so that companies can find yet another thing to try to sell me. *sigh*
what is this ”search warrant” you speak of? What is this, “Back to the Future?”They send police to classes on what 411 they can get out of a vehicle during an investigation from the electronics. Takes a search warrant on private vehicle.
”shady shit” according to whom? Reading Dr. Seuss ?
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being that statement was made, there's nothing I can say on this forum that will change your mind.
According to the laws created... law and order, right?
You are exactly right. Like don't voluntarily drive down a street with excessive speed so that you lose control and potentially cause a critical if not fatal collision with an innocent motorist driving the other direction which is what Tiger could have done. He did not have an "accident" if he was speeding, he had a perfectly preventable roll over. One in which he may have ended his career and destroyed someone elses vehicle. If the black box can provide compelling evidence against drivers who gamble with others' lives I am all for it.just don't do shady shit.
Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."You are exactly right. Like don't voluntarily drive down a street with excessive speed so that you lose control and potentially cause a critical if not fatal collision with an innocent motorist driving the other direction which is what Tiger could have done. He did not have an "accident" if he was speeding, he had a perfectly preventable roll over. One in which he may have ended his career and destroyed someone elses vehicle. If the black box can provide compelling evidence against drivers who gamble with others' lives I am all for it.
so since, according to your pro tip, someone else doesn't follow the rules. So you don't have to?Gavin Newsome has entered the chat....
Laws need to be followed.....right? Apparently not....
Pro tip ....”there are rules for me....and rules for thee”
Ha, use Am Fam. I thought some of those were bad, American families app is the single worst thing I have ever seen in my life. I am not exaggerating when I say it will record 30-40-50-60-70 mistakes on a SINGLE DRIVE of 15-20 miles. Speeding up too fast, slowing down too quickly, speeding, anything. They will actually ding you for driving the speed limit in a residential area or through a town, multiple times. Their reasoning? Too much driving in slow areas. Wtf? It wasn’t just me either, every review says the same thing. You can slow down from 10 mph, too fast. I have never seen anything so bad in my life lol.What always bugged me about the little black boxes that companies like state farm offered was that they weren't really smart enough to differentiate good habits from bad ones.
Example: let's say I'm driving along and someone cuts me off abruptly, and i have to slam on the brakes to avoid an accident. those high G forces get recorded, and are treated the same as the high G forces that come with doing burnouts off the line and hard cornering.
That, and good driving is definitely subjective. if the box sees that I'm driving 63 mph on the freeway, it might deem that I'm a good safe driver. but if I'm driving 63 mph in the fast lane on the interstate, forcing people to pass me on the right, i am 100000% a road hazard and not driving in a safe manner.
Someone else already hit the nail on the head in this thread tho, I really don't think that all the black box talk is for government spy programs or for insurance to screw me over somehow. it's all so that companies can find yet another thing to try to sell me. *sigh*