Colorado Group Buy with Granger

[hemiblas]

A couple of questions....My dealer hasnt replied yet. Probably going to give them another day or so and if I dont hear back make a switch. Not hearing back at all is concerning.

So when we make the switch the dealer refunds the 100 dollar deposit? Does Granger charge a new one?

Would Granger take a trade in on a new bronco reserved? I'm 50/50 on this one...
If so could all the numbers be worked out before driving it out there with vehicle info/pictures?

Thanks.

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[ColoradoGuy]

A couple of questions....My dealer hasnt replied yet. Probably going to give them another day or so and if I dont hear back make a switch. Not hearing back at all is concerning.

So when we make the switch the dealer refunds the 100 dollar deposit? Does Granger charge a new one?

Would Granger take a trade in on a new bronco reserved? I'm 50/50 on this one...
If so could all the numbers be worked out before driving it out there with vehicle info/pictures?

Thanks.

Yes, $100 reservation deposit is credited to you and no, the new dealer does not charge a new one.

I'm not sure about trade-ins so adding @Granger Ford for info on that.

 

[ColoradoGuy]

There has been A LOT of confusion on X-Plan, invoice, and fees so let me take a shot at clearing some things up (please correct me if any of this is wrong). If this is correct, I'll add it to the original post for reference:

Basic example if the invoice price (not MSRP) comes to $50,000:

• Standard X-Plan: $50,000 x .996 = $49,800 + $275 admin fee +$100 DOC fee = $50,175
• Granger offer: $50,000 - $1,300 + $45 transit fee +$100 DOC fee = $48,845
• Difference of $1,330

Some dealers may require additional dealer installed accessories (i.e. paint protection, undercoat, car alarm, their own financing terms, etc.) so just because they say they will honor the X-Plan, does not mean that they cannot add things and force you to pay for them – make sure you get it in writing that they will not require anything in addition to factory. From what I've read, @Granger Ford will not be requiring add-ons like this.

One other thing to remember is group shipping to Denver, CO is an estimated $425 (or more if one-off shipping). Obviously, the extra cost for going to Granger and bringing the Bronco back on your own will vary as well. A number of folks are approaching this like a mini-vacation and adventure by going to Granger to get their Bronco.

Lastly, the amount above does not include the destination fee (roughly $1,500) and sales and use taxes (which are based on where you live – not where you buy).

 

[den_jkur]

A couple of questions....My dealer hasnt replied yet. Probably going to give them another day or so and if I dont hear back make a switch. Not hearing back at all is concerning.

So when we make the switch the dealer refunds the 100 dollar deposit? Does Granger charge a new one?

Would Granger take a trade in on a new bronco reserved? I'm 50/50 on this one...
If so could all the numbers be worked out before driving it out there with vehicle info/pictures?

Thanks.

Trade-in is addressed in this thread.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/granger-ford-–-trade-in-guide.3870/

One thing I am not sure is whether we will be eligible for the tax credit for the trade-in when the transaction is out of state, this could be a good amount of savings based on the trade-in value. I am planning to trade-in my 2017 JKUR which could save me around $2400 in taxes (8% of $30,000 trade0in) value.

 

[den_jkur]

There has been A LOT of confusion on X-Plan, invoice, and fees so let me take a shot at clearing some things up (please correct me if any of this is wrong). If this is correct, I'll add it to the original post for reference:

Basic example if the invoice price (not MSRP) comes to $50,000:

• Standard X-Plan: $50,000 x .996 = $49,800 + $275 admin fee +$100 DOC fee = $50,175
• Granger offer: $50,000 - $1,300 + $45 transit fee +$100 DOC fee = $48,845
• Difference of $1,330

Some dealers may require additional dealer installed accessories (i.e. paint protection, undercoat, car alarm, their own financing terms, etc.) so just because they say they will honor the X-Plan, does not mean that they cannot add things and force you to pay for them – make sure you get it in writing that they will not require anything in addition to factory. From what I've read, @Granger Ford will not be requiring add-ons like this.

One other thing to remember is group shipping to Denver, CO is an estimated $425 (or more if one-off shipping). Obviously, the extra cost for going to Granger and bringing the Bronco back on your own will vary as well. A number of folks are approaching this like a mini-vacation and adventure by going to Granger to get their Bronco.

Lastly, the amount above does not include the destination fee (roughly $1,500) and sales and use taxes (which are based on where you live – not where you buy).

The calculation shown here looks correct and is aligned with @North7 's spreadsheet in the thread below. For true savings transportation cost also should be taken into account.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...eet-x-plan-vs-invoice-and-below-invoice.2319/

 

[ColoradoGuy]

Trade-in is addressed in this thread.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/granger-ford-–-trade-in-guide.3870/

One thing I am not sure is whether we will be eligible for the tax credit for the trade-in when the transaction is out of state, this could be a good amount of savings based on the trade-in value. I am planning to trade-in my 2017 JKUR which could save me around $2400 in taxes (8% of $30,000 trade0in) value.

The calculation shown here looks correct and is aligned with @North7 's spreadsheet in the thread below. For true savings transportation cost also should be taken into account.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...eet-x-plan-vs-invoice-and-below-invoice.2319/

Thanks! Updated the original post with both.

 

[jayhawkco]

Since I'm not sure if any of the Broncos from this group will be left for shipping from Granger by the time I get mine (I didn't reserve until about two weeks ago), I'm assuming that I might not be able to save any money on shipping by combining with the rest of you. So, I've already planned out how I want to drive back to the Denver area in order to a) avoid highways during the break in period, and b) actually see something scenic unlike the drive on I-80, a.k.a. the quickest way between Granger and Denver.

The quickest way between Granger and my house on Google Maps with the "Avoid Highways" option selected is 12 hours and 5 minutes, but doesn't go through anything particularly pretty. Nebraska has a couple of marked scenic routes in the North of the state according to this site, so it looks like I can do (with very minimal interstate driving):

Iowa Highway 141 NW out of Granger all the way to Smithland, Iowa
Old Highway 141 NW to near Sioux CIty, Iowa
US Highway 20 West to Willis, Nebraska
NE Highway 12 West to Valentine, Nebraska
US Highway 20 West to Van Tassell, Wyoming
Wyoming Highway 159 South to Torrington, Wyoming
US Highway 85 South to Colorado and points beyond

This route hits the Outlaw Trail (scenic bluffs, waterfalls, a city with a population of 1, and buffalo herds) as well as the Bridges to Buttes Highway (Agate Fossil Beds National Monument, and the Sandhills).

According to Google Maps, that puts me at 14 hours and 33 minutes, or only a little over 2 hours longer than the quickest non-highway route. For me, since I'm a road trip nerd, well worth it to see something a little prettier.

Also, if you wanted to break the trip up into two about equal days, Valentine, Nebraska has a couple of hotels (Super 8 and others).

Just thought I'd put this out there for anyone switching to Granger but contemplating flying out and driving home instead.

Chris

 

[jayhawkco]

Thanks! Updated the original post with both.

Are we sure Granger doesn't have the $275 admin fee? I don't remember seeing that unless I'm blind (which is very likely the case).

Chris

 

[elmystico]

Are we sure Granger doesn't have the $275 admin fee? I don't remember seeing that unless I'm blind (which is very likely the case).

Chris

If you mean the $275 X-Plan fee, then yes, they have to charge that per Ford's very strict X-Plan rules. But the extra $300 in their offer to X-Plan folks is aimed at covering that added cost, which non-X-Plan buyers don't have to pay.

 

[den_jkur]

Iowa Highway 141 NW out of Granger all the way to Smithland, Iowa
Old Highway 141 NW to near Sioux CIty, Iowa
US Highway 20 West to Willis, Nebraska
NE Highway 12 West to Valentine, Nebraska
US Highway 20 West to Van Tassell, Wyoming
Wyoming Highway 159 South to Torrington, Wyoming
US Highway 85 South to Colorado and points beyond

Chalk Pyramids and Tall Grass Prairie in Kansas are couple of others which can be added to the list:


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[jayhawkco]

If you mean the $275 X-Plan fee, then yes, they have to charge that per Ford's very strict X-Plan rules. But the extra $300 in their offer to X-Plan folks is aimed at covering that added cost, which non-X-Plan buyers don't have to pay.

That's what I thought, but in the math above, it doesn't have that listed.

Chris

 

[ColoradoGuy]

Are we sure Granger doesn't have the $275 admin fee? I don't remember seeing that unless I'm blind (which is very likely the case).

Chris

Yes, posted here: https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...rice-admin-fee-clarification.3524/post-119716

 

[jayhawkco]

Yes, posted here: https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...rice-admin-fee-clarification.3524/post-119716

Awesome. Thanks for the clarification. I definitely missed that thread. Thought I had all the fees figured out. So, in reality, we're saving $1,330 plus tax, so, for Aurora, $1,436.40.

Chris

 

[den_jkur]

That's what I thought, but in the math above, it doesn't have that listed.

Chris

@North7 probably can provide some insight on this, I believe there has been some discussion around this and a newer V 10 which was developed and reverted to the V9 to exclude $275 from the calculation.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...eet-x-plan-vs-invoice-and-below-invoice.2319/

 

[Monkey]

Havent used them for service yet because they're always booked so far out. Onmy real complaint I have about them is every time Ive gone to pick up parts, I can never find a dang spot to park my truck lol.

I quit using LHM Lakewood for service. Always overbooked and can't seem to get work done in a timely manner when the vehicle is scheduled. It's a bit more drive for me, but I prefer Phil Long and I have a better working relationship with them as I've ordered several trucks and a couple Explorers from them over the past 10 years or so. For oil changes or maintenance plan stuff I'll use the QuickLane service at Sill-Terhar in Broomfield or Phil Long, depending on what else I have going or what end of town I need to be on. Do not like Sill-Terhar for sales. I bought my '18 Expedition there and an F-150 several years back.

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