Until you get that refund or a top you have nothing so you're being shafted. As far as quality goes with no production tops to actually see there is no way to establish quality or design as fact. The people behind ADV have a proven history of Ponzie style schemes. It is an absolute fact they have pulled stunts like this before. The chances of anyone receiving an ADV production top at this point is very low. They'll keep taking 100% deposits from the uninformed make refunds to the informed who demand it and play the game till the train derails. At that point they close up and disappear to avoid the coming legal actions and after awhile reappear as a new company under a new name as these individuals behind ADV have done before.When one can get a full refund when their done , how is that a shafting ?
Could not agree more with the actions of this company in disclosing the real issue
My belief in quality is mine and mine only …… and if I jump out now and wait for when / if they ever ship I move back
Not the best position to be in but it is what it is and I would not suggest anyone continuing to wait
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