Every Ford I've owned or driven with auto cc has been like this except for my 2006 Explorer, only vehicle I could ever leave the auto feature on all the time without driving me nuts.
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The auto climate control on my MKZ works fine. I use it exclusively and it's on pretty much all the time because I live in South Florida.Every Ford I've owned or driven with auto cc has been like this except for my 2006 Explorer, only vehicle I could ever leave the auto feature on all the time without driving me nuts.
Take it to your dealer to have a look. If your hood is bent, hopefully they'll get you fixed up.Got my FE two weeks ago - Theres a very slight concave bend on the driver side edge of the hoodā¦ i noticed it immediately but didnt think much of itā¦ also, theres a glob of paint in the inside of the door (passenger rear size, size of a dime).. anything i can do about them now? Got the FE two weeks ago.
I am a gear head and I donāt understand either.Agree - looks sweet. But what do you mean you turn and more airflow comes out of ac.
Not a gearhead but i dont understand
I think this is incorrect. The hard too on JL 2 door is about 120 lbs. 100 lbs without the front panels. On the JK itās about 25% heavier. The MIC cap on a 2 door is 80 lbs. and merele 60 lbs o. The 4 door. Those are huge differences in weight. Letās hope thatās not due to flimsy materialI'v got to throw a flag on that one.
The back cap on the 2 door JL weighs about the same as the 2 door MIC cap (~80ish lbs). It's the 'base' hard top and feels neither 'cheep or thin'.
$50 bucks for a pair of kayak hoists will set up a manual system that easily pulls it off.
For the price we're paying for both of these vehicles nothing on them should feel cheap or thin. I'm not expecting a super lux interior - that's not what anyone in this market segment expects - but everything should feel rugged, substantial and solidly built
ME TOO!the top is very thin plastic. We wanted the nice painted top.
The hardtop on my CJ-7 is around 150lbs. I used to open the tailgate, place some steps behind the Jeep, and walk the top off on my back. Not fun - but doable. Otherwise it was a two person job carrying on each side.I think this is incorrect. The hard too on JL 2 door is about 120 lbs. 100 lbs without the front panels. On the JK itās about 25% heavier. The MIC cap on a 2 door is 80 lbs. and merele 60 lbs o. The 4 door. Those are huge differences in weight. Letās hope thatās not due to flimsy material
But you knew the top on the $30,000 bronco was the same as the top on a $70,000 bronco.not for $60,000 we shouldn't. Not even close.
Having never seen a MIC top in person, and not spent much time looking at a JL or JT top, what does @piffs5 mean by thin? @Fireman Dave , agreed on the competitive comparison, but IF the current production quality issues weren't there, what would you say the bad comparison is.As this is supposed to be a direct competitor with Jeep I think it is a realistic expectation that the top should be at least as good as a Jeep. My JKU and JLU had hardtops and they were neither cheap or thin. I don't know why some folks here jump all over anyone that has some concerns or complaints about their Broncos as they arrive. This launch has been fraught with missed deadlines, (not all Covid related) poor communication from Ford and dealers ending up with sale units that allow someone to just walk into a dealer and buy one while the person waiting over a year still doesn't have a clue when they get theirs. I think a few complaints are justified without being jumped on by the Fan Boys. Ford doesn't need to be defended by them, they deserve their lumps. This was FAR from a good execution.
As someone that has actually assisted in helping those builds in China, I promise you they are comparable to the MIC top but with less dead people and maiming.The car top should be the engineering and supply chain management you give to rookies and fresh fish new hires. China can build 100 floor skyscraper in three months. Ford can't figure out or scale a simple polymer, molded top in 2 years??? It's not like they are creating a new polymer chemistry. That supplier is not yet fired? Wabas--as--good--as--ass? Embarassing.
Having removed the top over the drive and passenger in both a 2021 Bronco AND a 2021 Jeep Wrangler in the same week, I can say I noticed no discernable difference between the two.Having never seen a MIC top in person, and not spent much time looking at a JL or JT top, what does @piffs5 mean by thin? @Fireman Dave , agreed on the competitive comparison, but IF the current production quality issues weren't there, what would you say the bad comparison is.
(I have a JKU, and my 12 year old top has air pressure leaks and wind noise at the front corners, but I remember it being much quieter in the early days.)
The MIC and Mod top both are supposed to be an innovative multilayered top with a honeycomb core (which should both reduce weight and better insulate). My question is, how thin can that be if you have three top layers, honeycomb, two inner layers and the fuzzy headliner?
Does it feel thin and soft on the outside? Beyond the fibers and lamination issues, what are you specifically calling out?
At a dealership recently I saw a 2-door Wildtrak with MIC. I pressed and knocked on the hardtop outer surfaces. I climbed up and inspected and pressed down on the top. The outer surface seemed solid, and I didn't see anything at the time looking too thin.Having never seen a MIC top in person, and not spent much time looking at a JL or JT top, what does @piffs5 mean by thin? @Fireman Dave , agreed on the competitive comparison, but IF the current production quality issues weren't there, what would you say the bad comparison is.
(I have a JKU, and my 12 year old top has air pressure leaks and wind noise at the front corners, but I remember it being much quieter in the early days.)
The MIC and Mod top both are supposed to be an innovative multilayered top with a honeycomb core (which should both reduce weight and better insulate). My question is, how thin can that be if you have three top layers, honeycomb, two inner layers and the fuzzy headliner?
Does it feel thin and soft on the outside? Beyond the fibers and lamination issues, what are you specifically calling out?
I couldnāt agree more!As this is supposed to be a direct competitor with Jeep I think it is a realistic expectation that the top should be at least as good as a Jeep. My JKU and JLU had hardtops and they were neither cheap or thin. I don't know why some folks here jump all over anyone that has some concerns or complaints about their Broncos as they arrive. This launch has been fraught with missed deadlines, (not all Covid related) poor communication from Ford and dealers ending up with sale units that allow someone to just walk into a dealer and buy one while the person waiting over a year still doesn't have a clue when they get theirs. I think a few complaints are justified without being jumped on by the Fan Boys. Ford doesn't need to be defended by them, they deserve their lumps. This was FAR from a good execution.
Iām waiting for your delivery report and picsAlso took delivery of a FE today and also think the top is a dumpster fire. But mine at least seems functional so far. I can wait until thereās a TSB or something.
Time will tell if what appears to be wildly inconsistent construction/QA actually become āfunctionalā issues, but itās my opinion that the quality is poor enough that it should qualify for some sort of campaign without having to have a major leak or something.
From the outside, at 2+ feet away, it looks great! And the rest of the vehicle is