Bilstein HOSS & Position Sensitive Dampers Part Numbers & Differences

[5280Bronco]

In just glad i got to see my peasant level dampers made an appearance in this thread.

Sponsored

 

[ZackDanger]

Yeah, yeah, yeah... everyone already knows how amazing @ZackDanger is... hell, he got his own thread from @JAGSarge talkin about it... ease up before his head is too big to fit his damn helmet...

It was actually @Judge Rufus and it’s only 3 pages.... and even then, just barely.

Nothing to brag about considering a cup holder thread can garner 10x that.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/huge-shoutout-to-zackdanger.13972/

 

[Scumby]

Thank you to @618TRVLWILD Ashley for getting photos at a demo yesterday and to @Pittguy for photos from an event he attended.
: STL Ball Park Village Event: (2) Badlands 4-Door Broncos in Race Red & Rapid Red

Taking the Bilstein part numbers from the photos here is what I found so far:
F4-BE5-M970-W6
MB3C-18080-ARJ
202660079

The Bilstein "F4-BE5" part number denotes the Bilstein 5100, non-reservoir, family of shocks. However since this is a Badlands, which include units with an external reservoir we have to assume Bilstein is playing with the part numbers for Ford or these are Pre-Production units that do not have the final part numbers assigned. The second and third set of part numbers did not reveal any information in a Google search.

The "HOSS System with Bilstein™ Position Sensitive Dampers" appear to be a derivative of the Bilstein "B8 8112" family which are called the ZoneControl® CR family. These dampers-shocks are that are available on the BL, WT, FE or Sasquatch package.
BILSTEIN B8 8112 (ZoneControl® CR) Damping perfected

The standard "HOSS (High-Performance Off-Road Stability Suspension) System" are on the B, BB, BD and OB. Currently these have been seen as black colored shocks so what Bilstien series these are is still unknown.

REQUEST: For anyone that is able to see the Bronco's in person, please see if you can get photos of the dampers-shocks with the part number sticker and then post them with the model they came from.

"HOSS System with Bilstein™ Position Sensitive Dampers"

Standard "HOSS (High-Performance Off-Road Stability Suspension) System" are on the B, BB, BD and OB.
View attachment 108226

HOSS System with Bilstein™ Dampers - Shocks by Trim level

For further analysis please see the great thread by @Werkedperformance here:
BILSTEIN ESCV Bronco suspension / shocks explained - "End Stop Control Valve" Dampers (Bronco HOSS Suspension w/ Position Sensitive Dampers)

the second # is the ford parts number

 

[North7]

the second # is the ford parts number

Excellent, thank you, post #1 updated.

 

[Scumby]

not sure if this will work. bilstein factory tour on YouTube, bronco shocks at 8.26

 

[Erock]

yep, sorry for the misrepresentation... I was already scolded

 

[BruckinFonco]

I really want to read every post here but it’s been a long day.

Can someone summarize what was discovered from the analysis of the part numbers so far? Is there a specific trim that clearly has the superior components? Does Sasquatch automatically equip the Bronco with the best stuff? Or does Badlands have an advantage regardless?

 

[ZackDanger]

I really want to read every post here but it’s been a long day.

Can someone summarize what was discovered from the analysis of the part numbers so far? Is there a specific trim that clearly has the superior components? Does Sasquatch automatically equip the Bronco with the best stuff? Or does Badlands have an advantage regardless?

Based on what you’re asking we know that there’s two coil over setups.

Base-OB
BL and anything Squatched (including WT and FE)

The latter gets the position sensitive dampers with the external reservoirs. We’re not sure whether BL and Sas get specifically different part numbers, but the general model/series of shocks appear to be the same between BL and Sas.

If you want the “best” oem suspension, go BL or Squatch.

 

[BruckinFonco]

Based on what you’re asking we know that there’s two coil over setups.

Base-OB
BL and anything Squatched (including WT and FE)

The latter gets the position sensitive dampers with the external reservoirs. We’re not sure whether BL and Sas get specifically different part numbers, but the model of shocks appear to be the same between the two.

If you want the “best” oem suspension, go BL or Squatch.

Perfect and very helpful summary. Thank you!

Edit: I just realized you wrote “coilover”... does that mean that there are collars for height-adjustability? I apologize in advance if this a dumb question.

 

[swooshdave]

Perfect and very helpful summary. Thank you!

Edit: I just realized you wrote “coilover”... does that mean that there are collars for height-adjustability? I apologize in advance if this a dumb question.

Not all coil overs are adjustable. Factory parts will typically be fixed.

 

[BruckinFonco]

Not all coil overs are adjustable. Factory parts will typically be fixed.

Got it. I really appreciate how much I’ve learned in the span of ten minutes. I’m going to go pass out now. Just needed my daily dose of B6G before bed.

 

[ZackDanger]

Perfect and very helpful summary. Thank you!

Edit: I just realized you wrote “coilover”... does that mean that there are collars for height-adjustability? I apologize in advance if this a dumb question.

@swooshdave answered but I wanted to point out that part of the discussion in this thread is that some Bilsteins have snap ring adjustable collars where the spring sits, and one theory is if these are in the Bronco, this might allow for adjustability in Bronco height.

(that maybe this is where any difference on BL and Sas suspension height is coming from, and since it’s so simple and easy that’s why Ford has been tight lipped about it)

My gut tells me however if this was the case in production models they would actually be advertising it rather than keeping it secret. If they thought knowledge of this functionality would hurt Sas sales, you’d assume they’d be paying up differences in height, rather than keeping quiet about that as well

 

[huck2080]

has anyone seen how they attach to the control arm ? they look similar to 6112 bilsteins for the F150 and those have an adjustable spring seat

 

[Erock]

crossbar mount like this is my guess... since it’s a thru hole style shock, mounted to an aluminum A-arm.

Sponsored