thanks! I have friends who will help me when I can afford the parts. Pizza and beer labor
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Ya I can do everything but the ring and pinion setup, I could do it if I bought the tools for lash and bearing press but not sure I'd ever use them again. Once I get the breakdown I'll see how much sense it makes but at $4200 they must be charging a TON of labor.thanks! I have friends who will help me when I can afford the parts. Pizza and beer labor
Haven't looked into rental, every time I've rented in the past the tools were beat up and I ended up buying what I needed so probably won't do that.
But if the labor is $1k then it probably makes sense to buy the tools!
The backlash tool is $50 on amazon and I bet your local tool rental place will rent the press
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I'd expect somewhere around $3000-$2500 for an elocker provided they don’t need to get new axles or anything - but an air locker is gonna be pricey - it’s probably over a grand just for the air compressor, installed.
You can hammer the bearings on if you have an old race or something to use to prevent striking the bearing directly. Just go slow and even around.
Also - sometimes auto parts stores will let you borrow or rent tooling - Oreilies in my area will for a deposit, but otherwise free. They just don’t have anything too specific.
Question??? will this locker fit the bronco as well? Rear Differential Case Axle Locker Kit for Jeep Wrangler 07-18 32 Spline Dana 44 | eBay
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Can’t see the left side bearing - in the Bronco the left bearing is bigger than the right. If the picture is accurate these look to be the same size.
Spline count is correct though.
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I don’t think so but I admit I don’t know first hand - haven’t worked on jeeps.
Here’s some pics of the carriers for the bearings which show the difference in size
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Just unhooking the front sway bar will make a huge improvement on your capabilities. Also, a limited slip rear is all you really need for overlanding. My 98 AWD Explorer was surprisingly capable and just had limited slip rear diff and 3.73 gearing.
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Thanks for the look inside there. I see the difference. I just wondered if a danna 44 is a danna 44 lolI don’t think so but I admit I don’t know first hand - haven’t worked on jeeps.
Here’s some pics of the carriers for the bearings which show the difference in size
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I added an ARB to the rear diff on our base. It would definitely have been cheaper and could have done it all myself iif I'd just swapped rear axles for a stock unit with e locker. The ARB is about $1,100, ring and pinion about $250 (has to be replaced as the ring is welded to the carrier), bearing kit about $200, I paid $750 for the install, then I needed an air compressor ($300 for ARB single), compressor mount about $200, wiring controller about $300, gear oil about $50. Probably forgetting something. Now I need to upgrade my front diff, axles, and steering...
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There's a 44 and an AdvanTek 44. I do think some newer Jeeps use the newer AdvanTek one, but I think the one you linked is maybe an older one? The newer rear end uses the M220 ring/gear set, which is the big difference between the two.
That said it wasn't a bad idea or anything - a lot of Jeep parts will transfer right over (for a lot cheaper). Just not certain that particular one will.
I think the Spicer part number you need is Ford MB3Z-4200-B (carrier - although I can't confirm if this is the entire carrier assembly), along with Spicer 10102021 (ELD - the carrier says w/ELD, so it may come with it but I can't confirm), plus your ring/pinion gear set and an install kit (Spicer 10267429 or Ford M-4210-R) to get the shims/bearings/bolts/etc. And then, Ford recommends replacing the axle seal bolts and the rear driveline bolts each time, so add in 8 axle bolts and 4 driveline bolt sets - I had the P/Ns for those but would have to dig them up. And your gear oil, of course.
Funny that the Ford part numbers that are non-ELD are $200 less, and they would include a gear set (since the ring gear is welded on there). Thanks Ford.
here's a parts breakdown
https://media.spicerparts.com/cfs/files/media/gKvvL6ujMaD8b5GND/LAXIP-0002-52022.pdf?token=eyJhdXRoVG9rZW4iOiIifQ==&store=original
It's much easier to just get the entire rear end pre-assembled from Ford Performance - it just bolts right up and no playing with setting lash or bearings and no specialty tooling needed. And likely cheaper.
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