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I was a bit concerned about this too so I re-watched the video that Last Line of Defense posted of the 2 door Bronco. At about the 8 minute mark you can get a view of the drain plugs in the back.

Wow I am surprised and glad that LLOD is getting one! That's the kind of influencers Ford really needs to build momentum.

Shame on Ford though for giving Mike a guy who couldn't show him how the seats actually fold
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Or maybe we-not ford-are the problem. We are all hungry for more, more, more photos, color swatches, rumors, etc. Without controlling our own restraint about jumping to conclusions about pre-production, franken whatevers. If ford monitors this site, they are probably laughing their heads off at us all.
I think a lot of this is due to anxiety about having to pre reserve a vehicle that most of us will never see, and for sure not test drive, before ordering. Most builds are going to exceed $40k and for most that's a lot to spend to just trust it will be what they want when it arrives. I think having at least one demo unit per market plus sample materials/colors from all trims (like on the wall at Tesla stores) would alieveate a lot of preorder concerns.

Of course we all want the build and price to play around with, but I think anxiety plays a lot into the anger around that too. People are rightly concerned that no concrete pricing is available to discuss with the selected dealer with a looming dealer change deadline approaching.
 

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I talked to them today and Tim mentioned details on top colors may be released tonight.
I was told that too today and the wife got excited and hoping for cactus gray w/ white top.
 

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And I was told today that Ford will have an announcement regarding tops in the next couple of days. So who knows. My wife was standing right there as well and heard it. And her response to him, you mean that I can get a white top and he laughed and smerked.
She's a sneaky one!
 

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Wow I am surprised and glad that LLOD is getting one! That's the kind of influencers Ford really needs to build momentum.

Shame on Ford though for giving Mike a guy who couldn't show him how the seats actually fold
I watched his video this am being heading down myself to check them out. I thought he was a diehard toyota guy too?
 

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Apologies that I wasn't able to get the tape measure out for the seat height. It's more hands off today for sure. Hopefully from the side shot you can do a little measuring though!
@Aman you should have given him a lesson about measuring.
 

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And I was told today that Ford will have an announcement regarding tops in the next couple of days. So who knows. My wife was standing right there as well and heard it. And her response to him, you mean that I can get a white top and he laughed and smerked.
Laughed and smirked in a good way or bad way?
 

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It’s a bit muddy today right where everyone is entering. But back at the far end is where the new Bronco is and it is drier there. A wheelchair might still have some trouble maneuvering if we get more precip. But the guys at the front gate just said they will definitely allow folks to drive to the back for access.
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If Ford is reading here, they must think they've got most everything wrong and are taking a step back to figure out what customers really want. That could very well delay things if that's the case.
If it's any consolation -- and I can imagine why it might not be :) -- the rep at the Bronco event today gave me a very interesting tidbit that he said was a result of Ford folks listening to what all the forums are saying. In this case, it was about the trail cam.

He said they are looking into rethinking the placement of the trail cam in the grille due to reservation holders' well-voiced concerns about it being blocked by the winch. He said the Ford engineers he has talked with recently said they are considering moving it, including placing it in the bull bar or using the solenoid on top of the Warn winch. Again, this is all just still theorizing at this point, but that they had realized it was a problem after they read criticisms online. I specifically asked if a different placement would be a separate camera or if it just replaced the one in the grille if the winch and bar are installed. He indicated that the one in the grille would not be removed, just become inactive if another was installed on the winch or in the bar.

So, thinking ahead to some of your reactions, I mentioned I thought this sounded like a half-baked plan still. And that's exactly what the rep was saying: They're still just spitballing at this point, but at least they truly are "listening," at least some of the time.
 

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I’m concerned. A badge is a badge and it is important. Look at the Raptor badge as an example. Would you like that as a sticker as well? Look at the F series truck badges. Even though it is said they’ve already place the orders for those fridge magnet looking jokes They should rethink it for at least the higher trims that offer the LED lights and leave those little badges in the vehicle as a magnet for their home or beer fridge in the garage
 

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Laughed and smirked in a good way or bad way?
He told me something similar in the morning, but it wasn't in reference to tops. I was asking more about interior options in general, which he said were still not official. But then he mentioned that Bronco Nation would be putting together a video with their own Q&A today, and that that would be the first of several opportunities over the next week where they hoped to make more info official. He was regularly texting someone when he felt he could try to get a question answered that he didn't know the answer to and/or hadn't yet been asked. I truly believe he was extremely sincere in his effort to get us as much info as he could and was a really good sport.
 

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Guys help me out here.... Are those tires the 35s or the 33s?

Here are some photos of a white top from a pre-production model touring Ford manuafactoring partners. (From Facebook)

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I was able to talk with a Bronco brand manager and one of the Endurance/Test drivers of the new Bronco (guy that drove Rubicon, Moab, KOH route and more) and gathered a few of the questions that you all had as well as got some general information.

General Information regarding the driving experience:
  • Bronco is much more enjoyable to drive from 5-45 mph than a Wrangler. Above 45 mph, a Raptor is better. When a wrangler becomes harsh, the Bronco does not.
  • Stabilizer bar disconnect is incredible and functions perfectly. He said when going offroad, he selects the disconnect button and it seamlessly engages/disengages at 25 mph. Even on simple gravel mountain passes, he likes it disconnected and said it lets the vehicle float, where a Wrangler gets unsteady outside of crawling. The Bronco does not.
  • GOAT modes change a lot of parameters and work really well and are not intrusive. Throttle map, ABS settings, Stability Control, Traction Control, etc. He wasn't sure of everything, but he described it as this: For a sports car on a track in "track setting", the perfect lap is not affected by the settings, but prevents human error. He told the designers that's what he wants for offroad driving and feels like they executed. He said, "use them".
  • Talked about how meticulous they were during testing. He was told to not intentionally damage them, but drive them hard. After each day, they would put them on a lift and inspect for any damage and address... Gave an example of a minor bend in the fuel tank skid plate and the engineers made changes to prevent it.
  • Rock sliders are plenty sufficient. Showed pictures after Rubicon of slight bend to the slider. However, he did point out a scrape to the door panel and said the Wrangler Rubicon with them did not have the body damage. It was because of the way the Bronco body still goes out from the slider, where the Jeep is vertical.
  • He talked about the fact that the fenders (not just the flares) are easily replaceable (bolt on). He expects SEMA to be insane next year after companies get their hands on the Bronco and how simple it is to swap out parts like that.
  • Intake is on passenger side, snorkel has been discussed in meetings as an accessory. He hasn't seen for sure if it will be available from factory, but suspects it will be one of the accessories.
  • 1 pedal driving mode will work in both 4Hi and 4Low settings.
  • You can lock the front diff without locking the rear diff (not true on stock Wrangler). So for rock crawling in the automatic, he will lock the front and turn on the trail turn assist for the rear. This way, it does not drag the rear tires as much as having both lockers on.
  • As for trail turn assist, he said there are a lot of precautions in place and axle torque calculations to prevent you from accidentally doing damage. He seemed to really like the feature (which surprised him). These preventative measures that are in place will prevent you from using it on dry pavement or dry slick rock settings. Said it will work in low traction environments. (sorry to everyone that was planning to use it in parking lots. haha)

Brand Manager info:
  • The trim level badge (Badlands) is final design.
  • Cameras for 360 will be the front and rear that we have seen and one in each mirror near the lights that I already showed. There is no re-location consideration for when a winch is installed in front.
  • This one will get a lot of heat... The interior is pretty much production as shown. The plastic, the finishes, etc... what you see is pretty much what you will get.
  • Rear seat recline or fixed position? He was not sure.
  • Additional speakers for premium sound? He was not sure.
  • Storage under the rear seat cushion? No, it is flat plastic there.
  • 4 down towable, even with upgraded 4 wheel drive auto - Yes.
  • Build and Price this fall - he would not commit to September and said there is a lot that goes into it.
  • Velocity Blue said to be available at the same time as all of the other colors
  • Front license plate mounting? They have accommodations for this that they will be sharing soon. I took some more pictures of the various Bronco bolts that I think a mount could be bolted to.
  • Confirmed the seats are Leather in this Bronco
Also, per @RMGCO :
One key thing I learned at the event yesterday from the brand manager is that, in the month of September, Ford will be having a session where they will be reviewing all of the color / trim options as well as a FAQ portion to answer a lot of the questions being asked about the Bronco. I specifically asked about white top / white fender flare / fender color-coded options, First Edition interior options, decibel levels when driving the vehicle and many other things. He said most, if not ALL of those questions will be addressed during the session. This is a SEPARATE session not associated with the build and price tool. He was taking notes on all of the questions we were asking and was going to at them to the FAQ portion of the event.
This was great news. He said they are reading the forum, listening to customer feedback and are going to try and answer a lot of our questions during this session.
(Thank you for the added information!)



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Rock Slider attachments:

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Pics to show seat height (33" tire so you can try to determine it):

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Airbag size on steering wheel concerned someone:

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Seat controls (yes the lever on the side is the height adjustment):

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Fender flare connections:

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A better overhead control shot (someone was asking about the various lights/indicators/words):

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