where do you expect the new bronco to rank in the popular offroad vehicle heigharchy?

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Yet another IFS is a deal breaker guys... You haven't even seen what it can do, hell, you haven't even seen the vehicle or know what the trim levels and options are.
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If you can option it to be one of the following
a stripped down utility vehicle plow capable
a combo commuter and weekend fishing, hunting etc offroader
a serious offroad / crawler

Then it will be a hit.
I don't know that they're planning to offer snow plow prep on Bronco. It's not available on Ranger at the moment. However, if you went with a light enough blade, Lexan for example and had a quick disconnect that ran through a winch power cable, that might work fine. Pushing snow tears the crap out of your front end if it's not set up right. It's also more about engine cooling strategy as well once it's set up. F-150 has a snow plow package that has a switch to change the engine cooling setup and I believe it keeps the fan running.
 

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I don't know that they're planning to offer snow plow prep on Bronco. It's not available on Ranger at the moment. However, if you went with a light enough blade, Lexan for example and had a quick disconnect that ran through a winch power cable, that might work fine. Pushing snow tears the crap out of your front end if it's not set up right. It's also more about engine cooling strategy as well once it's set up. F-150 has a snow plow package that has a switch to change the engine cooling setup and I believe it keeps the fan running.
Exactly! Call me crazy but I plan on getting a Bronco in part to AVOID snow plowing... isn't that part of the fun?

But in all seriousness I am not sure who is truly expecting or demanding a snow plow package on a Bronco. I may be way out of touch here but if you have a large enough property you are doing this with a tractor or a skidder (my preferred method), if you have a small property with no heavy equipment you are doing it with a shovel and/or blower, and if you are running a business it sure as hell wont be using the Bronco as the workhorse...

Once you plow snow with a skidder, using a truck feels like using a computer without a mouse....
 

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In my 25 years in the business, I have never installed a plow on anything below an F-250 with snow plow prep. If you put a blade on a vehicle without the prep package - kiss your warranty bye bye.
 

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…………… I am Ford's customer for this vehicle, but I will be looking elsewhere. IFS is a deal breaker for me!

I am Ford's customer as well. It will be nice to finally have something to replace my not so off road 4WD Explorer. If it comes sway bar disconnects, lockers, 37's and a model for the climber guys (as has been reported here), then I think you should wait to see it because it might just turn out to be badass not some twiggy IFS of old. We have already seen a change from the twiggy aluminum a-arms on the first 4-door to the beefier steel ones on the "bomber" that look like Ranger arms. so we might see an even beefier version for the 37's and "climber" version. This coming from a SFA guy (me) ……… but if they are willing to build it then I am willing to abuse it.

....................... and if the IFS sucks then its just a torch and welder away from getting a SFA conversion.
 

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In my 25 years in the business, I have never installed a plow on anything below an F-250 with snow plow prep. If you put a blade on a vehicle without the prep package - kiss your warranty bye bye.

Just like I see guys all the time towing a backhoe with an F-150. People are just crazy anymore, but the thing that makes me mad are when those same people will then say "oh, them trucks are junk" . Should say, " well ,even though I beat the shit out of it, it held up quite well".
 

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Just like I see guys all the time towing a backhoe with an F-150. People are just crazy anymore, but the thing that makes me mad are when those same people will then say "oh, them trucks are junk" . Should say, " well ,even though I beat the shit out of it, it held up quite well".
That's just plain stupid. I've had customers rip axles out of trucks, completely destroy transmissions and other countless bonehead things by just plain overloading a half ton truck. I have customers that don't even tow a backhoe with anything smaller than KW Daycab and a low boy trailer. You could do it with a 350/450 depending on the size, but pulling the guts out of your truck and expecting it to last is foolish.
 

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Not sure about off-roadiness .. but if you can get the Bronco with the 2.7EB it will be so much more fun to drive than anything on that list no one will care.
 
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Yet another IFS is a deal breaker guys... You haven't even seen what it can do, hell, you haven't even seen the vehicle or know what the trim levels and options are.
It really doesn't matter. The fact that Ford comes out with all this hype about a Jeep competitor and then comes out with a product that can't possibly compete due to a substandard off road frontend setup is maddening! Then I see comments about how this vehicle will compete with Jeep sales! Sales? Of course it matters but what good is a Bradley tank with no guns?
 

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It really doesn't matter. The fact that Ford comes out with all this hype about a Jeep competitor and then comes out with a product that can't possibly compete due to a substandard off road frontend setup is maddening! Then I see comments about how this vehicle will compete with Jeep sales! Sales? Of course it matters but what good is a Bradley tank with no guns?
Please never use the Bradley Fighting Vehicle (which is not a tank) as an example for how something ought to be designed ...
 

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Please never use the Bradley Fighting Vehicle (which is not a tank) as an example for how something ought to be designed ...
You’re making me want to watch that movie again....
 



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