Interesting catch, so I wonder if the spring seat part is different or if that is adjustable?
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That has been debated a 1,000 times with dozens of bits of information, the answer is:@North7 would you be able to do the old B/BB/BD/OBX vs non-Squatch ride height measurement for us? The more basic trim people still "need" that info.
Right! Hence the request if you happen to run into them.That has been debated a 1,000 times with dozens of bits of information, the answer is:
No one has figured it out yet.
Outstanding analysis. Thank you!Thank you to @618TRVLWILD Ashley for get a photo of one of the two Bilstein shocks at a demo yesterday, as shown in this thread:
: STL Ball Park Village Event: (2) Badlands 4-Door Broncos in Race Red & Rapid Red
Taking the Bilstein part numbers from the photos here is what I found so far:
F4-BE5-M970-W6
MB3C-18080-ARJ
202660079
The Bilstein "F4-BE5" part number denotes the Bilstein 5100, non-reservoir, family of shocks. It is not the upgraded "HOSS System with Bilsteinā¢ Position Sensitive Dampers" that are standard on the BL, WT, FE or Sasquatch package. It may be safe to assume these are the the "HOSS (High-Performance Off-Road Stability Suspension) System" standard on the B, BB, BD and OB.
What we can see from this Demo Badlands is that some of the demos are built from frankenstein parts as all Badlands are supposed to have the upgraded Bilstein Position Sensitive Dampers with the external reservoir.
REQUEST: For anyone that is able to see the Bronco's in person, please see if you can get photos of the dampers-shocks with the part number sticker and then post them with the model they came from.
The "HOSS System with Bilsteinā¢ Position Sensitive Dampers" appear to be a derivative of the Bilstein "B8 8112" family which are called the ZoneControlĀ® CR family.
BILSTEIN B8 8112 (ZoneControlĀ® CR) Damping perfected
Standard "HOSS (High-Performance Off-Road Stability Suspension) System" standard on the B, BB, BD and OB.
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Upgraded "HOSS System with Bilsteinā¢ Position Sensitive Dampers" that are standard on the BL, WT, FE or Sasquatch package.
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HOSS System with Bilsteinā¢ Dampers - Shocks by Trim level
For further analysis please see the great thread by @Werkedperformance here:
BILSTEIN ESCV Bronco suspension / shocks explained - "End Stop Control Valve" Dampers (Bronco HOSS Suspension w/ Position Sensitive Dampers)
If it really is that simple then I know exactly what my first mod is going to be, a free lift on the front end.Wonder if the answer to the difference is snap rings (would be a low cost way for Ford to change between Squatch and Badlands):