Broke another Axle... (Video)

[5GENIDN]

With the diff drop and the taller A arm, my stock ride angles are pretty good. I think it's that I droop to far... Probably doesn't help that I always disconnect my stab bar off-road.

Now that is twice you have stated that... First time I thought oh... just got words mixed up... But twice??? That does cause me to have a little concern... and may explain a few things.

Please help me to understand what a taller "A Arm is"? My guess is that you are referring to the Knuckle. The lower A arm has been moved down with the differential drop. This should not have changed droop. Key word should not have. That easily could be a function of the other suspension modifications. When you have it up in the air, on a hoist or the entire front end on jacks, and you spin the wheel at full droop do you get any bind in the CV?

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[indio22]

I like the clearance in the snow.... I'd rather keep breaking things haha. I'll just keep upgrading components. Some coilovers and then RCV shafts. Maybe some limiting straps.

My older Series Land Rover has axle droop limiting straps (example below). Although I removed them to get more droop.

Amazon and other sources offer similar straps, maybe that could be the ticket if too much droop is an issue. Although I'd like some material that provides a less severe halt to the axle droop, meaning a strap that has some stretch built in.

 

[NorthShoreBronco]

Now that is twice you have stated that... First time I thought oh... just got words mixed up... But twice??? That does cause me to have a little concern... and may explain a few things.

Please help me to understand what a taller "A Arm is"? My guess is that you are referring to the Knuckle. The lower A arm has been moved down with the differential drop. This should not have changed droop. Key word should not have. That easily could be a function of the other suspension modifications. When you have it up in the air, on a hoist or the entire front end on jacks, and you spin the wheel at full droop do you get any bind in the CV?

Yes sorry, I don't know why I keep calling the knuckle an A arm.... my bad. What I mean is that ridding on level ground, my angles are good. The upper control arm is level because of the taller knuckle, and the lower control arm is good because of the diff drop.

But because i have a spacer on top of my Bilstein suspension, it theoreticaly ads that much more droop to the bottom end. Add that I use my sway bar disconnect on top of that.... probably way too much.

It's going up on the hoist this afternoon, i'm going to check the CV angle at full droop. Maybe even disconnect the swaybar and compare. Good to have the data

 

[AttackGuy64]

Maybe the headline should say “I failed my Bronco using a cheap lift“

Sheeeeeeeit... Shots fired!

 

[NatureMan]

I understood what happened as soon as i saw “rough country”.

 

[PWillette]

Yes sorry, I don't know why I keep calling the knuckle an A arm.... my bad. What I mean is that ridding on level ground, my angles are good. The upper control arm is level because of the taller knuckle, and the lower control arm is good because of the diff drop.

But because i have a spacer on top of my Bilstein suspension, it theoreticaly ads that much more droop to the bottom end. Add that I use my sway bar disconnect on top of that.... probably way too much.

It's going up on the hoist this afternoon, i'm going to check the CV angle at full droop. Maybe even disconnect the swaybar and compare. Good to have the data

What Bilstein are you running and how much spacer on top?

 

[5GENIDN]

Yes sorry, I don't know why I keep calling the knuckle an A arm.... my bad. What I mean is that ridding on level ground, my angles are good. The upper control arm is level because of the taller knuckle, and the lower control arm is good because of the diff drop.

But because i have a spacer on top of my Bilstein suspension, it theoreticaly ads that much more droop to the bottom end. Add that I use my sway bar disconnect on top of that.... probably way too much.

It's going up on the hoist this afternoon, i'm going to check the CV angle at full droop. Maybe even disconnect the swaybar and compare. Good to have the data

Okay we are on the same page now.... I would agree that the excessive droop is probably caused by the spacer... I know the difference in bind on the king coil overs is less than 0.3 inch... As built from King they caused CV bind but a 0.3" limiting shim inside the bottom of the shock and there is no bind in the CV... Tolerances are that close.

 

[jon]

Youtuber life is hard, gotta sellout

 

[NorthShoreBronco]

What Bilstein are you running and how much spacer on top?

It's the Badlands Bilstein with these on top...

I know spacers are crap. But at the time, it was the only think I could get for Bronco to lift it where I wanted it. I'll be replacing them with Coil overs soon. I always knew it would be harder on my components.

 

[PWillette]

It's the Badlands Bilstein with these on top...

I know spacers are crap. But at the time, it was the only think I could get for Bronco to lift it where I wanted it. I'll be replacing them with Coil overs soon. I always knew it would be harder on my components.

I'm not sure how new coilovers will help if you plan to remove just the spacers but not the diff drop or knuckle? Are there coilovers out there to match the 5" lift? Or am I misunderstanding your plans?

 

[NorthShoreBronco]

I'm not sure how new coilovers will help if you plan to remove just the spacers but not the diff drop or knuckle? Are there coilovers out there to match the 5" lift? Or am I misunderstanding your plans?

Yes, I'm going to match the 5 inch lift. With a spacer, you get way more droop, as the whole lift is on top of the compressing spring and strut. Where as if you get a whole new set of spring/strut, that movement is more "centered"? "balanced"? it's hard to explain... the spring will also be stiffer and not allow as much compression/droop.

Accutune site has a good visual on this. https://accutuneoffroad.com/spacer-lift-vs-preload-spacer-vs-coilover-preload/

And again, not even 100% sure that is my issue. Will check on a hoist this afternoon.

 

[colbert]

Skipped ahead so sorry if answered.
How many miles on lift?
How many Trail miles?
Did you have any signs of impending doom?

 

[PWillette]

Yes, I'm going to match the 5 inch lift. With a spacer, you get way more droop, as the whole lift is on top of the compressing spring and strut. Where as if you get a whole new set of spring/strut, that movement is more "centered"? "balanced"? it's hard to explain... the spring will also be stiffer and not allow as much compression/droop.

Accutune site has a good visual on this. https://accutuneoffroad.com/spacer-lift-vs-preload-spacer-vs-coilover-preload/

And again, not even 100% sure that is my issue. Will check on a hoist this afternoon.

Gotcha...just hadn't seen coilovers to match 5" of lift or the specs thereof. I guess knowing the actual travel (fully extended) of the +5" coilover compared to the Bilstiens w/ spacers (fully extended) will determine if droop will decrease.

 

[NorthShoreBronco]

Update... just tried turning the tires at max droop on a hoist.... turns smooth, no binding. Stabilizer disconnect on the hoist seems to have done nothing.... must need to be under load. It is a hard angle, but no binding. So i'm thinking its a wear over time thing. Will take the old one appart and look for wear marks inside.

 

[Imaginary Friend]

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