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Another Broken Axle / CV Joint

rrknapp

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I also broke front passenger axle at the CV joint. Big Bend. 35inch tires, 2 inch Rough Country lift. I was in my driveway on a course gravel parking pad. I was backing up, passenger rear wheel spun. Thought, perfect time to try 4W options. I wanted to crawl out of hole, so did not use much pedal. I could not get out of the hole under any 4w modes. Gas'ed it and spun out. Gave the keys back to my wife (her ride) and said, your 4wd sucks. I am very seasoned 4wd guy. The next day she calls me on the way home from work and said there is a noise coming from the front end. Looked at the axle and boot twisted. Yes broken axle. Towed to dealership 5 days ago and still don't think they pulled it into the shop. I know it's broken, service dept wont know until they actually put eye on it. Today, I called parts dept to make sure they had new axle in stock, if not I would order. I was told that there are 8 axles on back order and should be at the parts hub on 1/14. That is all I know to date 1/10/22. Lots of posting here and didn't get through them all. I think there were two other reports of broken axles. Did I miss any. Picture: x represents rear tire and 0 the front. i filled in the divot for rear but realize after the front wheel barely spun if any at all.

Update: Dealership short staffed, another Week+ to get it pulled into the shop. Ford agreed to tow it to another dealership today, 1/13. They called my wife to tell her Rough Country lift had changed the geometry and it will happen again. Here we go!!!........ trying to explain that geometry hasn't changed and the 2 inch spacers are a cheaper way to achieve the same lift as the stock 2 inch longer coil-overs. They will get back to me regarding warranty. I said fix it and I'll fight warranty later. The estimate for changing 1 CV axle is $1,100. Let's see where this ends up.

Any predictions?
Maybe, just maybe, they do the right thing. Although the tech knows nothing about lift geometry, he does admit Ford intended this vehicle to be modified. To be continued............

Update:02/01/21


My wife picked up her bronco, yesterday. Local dealer denied claim and cited "vehicle has been lifted and fitted with tires that do not match the OE size". Ford Corporate got involved by contacting us through this forum and was instrumental in getting a new axle. They have yet to offer an opinion, regarding warranty. I did request my CV axle and removed the boots and made some interesting observations. I think it deserves a new post.

Clarification: I made several blanket statements regarding Rough Country 2" spacer lift not changing the geometry. Then intend point was the 2" space was the same as a Factory Bronco lifted. What I did not know was the sasquatch had a different differential and therefore likely different CV axles and possibly different geometry. That is indeed the case. I didn't know anything about the new Bronco prior to posting. Never read a single article. My wife wanted one and I started calling dealerships until we found one available. We were told it's because it was a manual transmission.

The truck is back and I've been forced to gather more factual data, because something is not right and lead to a CV axle failure, seen in the photo. My wife was told by the dealership it would happen again. "guaranteed" That is the question I'll raise in a different post. The question being "Is Rough Country selling a lift said to fit the Big Bend that is guaranteed to break the CV Axle on the Bronco, it was intended to fit. According to the dealer, that would be the case and every single customer who buys the pucks will experience the same failure we did. I don't think so! Rough Country has been at this a while and doubt they messed this up. It will be interesting to hear the different views.
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Beach_Bum

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Sorry to hear about this. What tires/wheels did you go with? Different offset and heavier wheels/tires along with the spacer lift can indeed affect the geometry. Even with the altered geometry, the axle/cv joint shouldn't fail on a gravel driveway.

Good luck fighting warranty. Please keep us updated on repair timeline and whether Ford will stand-by the repair under warranty. After all, it is Ford that was so proud of their Easter egg imploring the owner to "Lift Me Baby".
 

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Good luck with the warranty fight. This is why I never modify a vehicle until the warranty is over. 1100 bucks is a lot of money though.
 

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Horsepower, big tires, and a heavy foot have broken nearly every ujoint, hub or CV axle out there that's ever broken lol
 

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Good luck with the warranty fight. This is why I never modify a vehicle until the warranty is over. 1100 bucks is a lot of money though.
This. I just saw yesterday that someone posted a thread where they were having drivetrain issues and Ford won't warranty it because they have a leveling lift on it.

I was considering upgrading my tires on my OBX to 33s but Im concerned they'd even use that as an excuse to deny warranty even though my dealer was happy to install some and it's not much increase. If warranty is a concern, definitely best to stay OE.
 

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Big Bend. 35inch tires, 2 inch Rough Country lift. I was in my driveway on a course gravel parking pad. I was backing up, passenger rear wheel spun. Thought, perfect time to try 4W options. I wanted to crawl out of hole, so did not use much pedal. I could not get out of the hole under any 4w modes. Gas'ed it and spun out.
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Not to thread jack, but Spicer still hasn't released their Bronco half shafts.
I will be doing those after they get released.
 

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Well that's concerning if gravel caused that lol. Doesn't even look like it should be spinning on that
It’s much more likely the OP is misremembering the circumstances of events that led to the axle failure. Just like their idea that because a vehicle has a large aftermarket following that upgrading over stock will somehow maintain the warranty. Very much false. Jeep is the same way, worked there for 4 years between Ford dealers. Some dealers will turn an eye, especially if they did the upgrades, but they’re not obligated to. No different than any Mustang that goes race car status and blows something up. Sports car with a large aftermarket following, but Ford will still deny your warranty for aftermarket modifications.
 

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I hope you get the repair warrantied, but you will have to explain how your driveshaft angles aren’t changed. Makes no sense to my addled brain (unless you dropped the diff with spacers). There is a reason Ford and Jeep (and GM?) have not offered bigger than 33” tires and the Dana 30 and equivalent 190 Ford IFS axle. They aren’t built for the tire, weight, additional offset and definitely not a lot of wiggle room, capacity wise with a lift. So many 35” tires Jeeps with bent axles!
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