Great perspective. Please keep your nose to the wind & let us know if things take a turn for the worse
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FINAL UPDATE: Complete Engine Failure - SAS Big Bend - 3wk Old / 1000mi / 2.7L EcoBoost
Well, the few things that I do know is that we have seen at least 3 failed engines, there are 4 engines backordered (how many failed engines does it take before they get backordered), a guy who claimed that he knew about bad valves suddenly was deleted from the Forum, and that Melling has intake valves available for the Bronco 2.7, but not exhaust valves on Rock Auto.
I agree that it is too early to assume a systemic problem (even though random internet person stated some rather specific things about 2.7 valve problems), but that doesn't mean that the 2.7 is good to go either... Like I said, it's suspect and until Ford says something definitive, we have little to go on other than what @flip has generously shared.
I agree that it is too early to assume a systemic problem (even though random internet person stated some rather specific things about 2.7 valve problems), but that doesn't mean that the 2.7 is good to go either... Like I said, it's suspect and until Ford says something definitive, we have little to go on other than what @flip has generously shared.
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The reason there's SO MUCH anxiety about a possibly blown engine is the realization that virtually nothing is fixable in today's world. Bronco is basically the engine, 300 sensors, and software too complex for even god to follow - all wrapped in aluminum foil.
I'm sure there must be Ford dealerships out there that have actually replaced an engine in the past....but I'm betting they are few and far between.
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Exactly. And who knows who will be doing the engine swap! Not in my brand new truck! I would escalate this until they agreed to make me a satisfied customer. Remember that concept? Customer satisfaction?
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I don't know what I am concerned about, it's not like my Bronco has even been switched on since it was built August 5th.
Thank you for this perspective.
You don't know how right you are. I sincerely hope OP does not go through the same thing I have. My engine (2.3) had significant issues at 600 miles. It's been at the dealership for over 3 months now and they can't fix it. First, they couldn't even diagnose it, but I pestered Ford until powertrain engineering got involved. They sent the replacement engine probably 2 months ago. Since then, the dealership is claiming they don't have all the parts they need. I had my Tesla sold to Vroom when I bought the Bronco, but I caught a rock chip that cracked the windshield. Vroom wanted to reduce the price by $2000 for the crack so I canceled the sale. Thank you Jesus for that rock from heaven!!!
Otherwise, I'd have been driving my Excursion everywhere for the last 4 months. May not be true for all of them, but my Bronco is unfixable, at least at my local dealership.
FWIW, which is very little IMO...
Put our Gladiator up for sale, mentioned that we got a Bronco, of course saltiness ensued.
Put our Gladiator up for sale, mentioned that we got a Bronco, of course saltiness ensued.
I had been VERY apprehensive about DM sandblasting damage on my AMB 2-door; it sat up there from 7/15 blend to release 9/28. But I told my dealer to not even wash it during PDI and was thrilled to find zero issues during wash/polish/wax.
Good luck getting yours home.
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Nothing to see here, move along, Dirty Mike will be along soon with the crew @Ford Motor Company, to clarify the situation.FWIW, which is very little IMO...
Put our Gladiator up for sale, mentioned that we got a Bronco, of course saltiness ensued.
I had this same problem back in 2001, I purchased a loaded Ford Ranger 4.0v6 ext cab 4wd. At 10,000 miles engine took a sh!t. I live in Georgia and it happened in Kentucky. Ford roadside had to call a number of dealers before they found one that would even take the truck. It was towed an hour away and I got the same news as you. So I asked about getting a rental and was given a phone book, I had to pay for my own rental back to Atlanta where I dropped the rental off at the airport, over $300 in charges. Lucky for me I had an older 93 ranger I had kept. The dealer in Kentucky had my truck for well over a month. Ford was no help at all, wouldn’t pay for rental, didn’t want to talk about rental etc. so your lucky you have a rental.
after well over a month I had to rent another car to drive to Kentucky so I could get my truck. Got the truck and on the way home radiator hose disconnected. Luckily I was monitoring dash and noticed it overheating, pulled over and coolant was pouring out...this was in Georgia so I had it towed to local dealer where it was diagnosed and fixed.
I begged with ford, the dealer I purchased the truck from to buy it back...crickets!! Over the next ten months the truck would throw check enginewarning every time I accelerated hard. It was probably in the service department another 7-8 times after the initial fix.
ford didn’t care, my dealer didn’t care so I contacted a lawyer. Took about 3 months and ford agreed to buy the truck back and pay damages.
After talking with my lawyer this happens a lot, manufacturers and dealers do everything in their power to make you keep your sh!t vehicle. At this point you can ask but Ford and your dealer are not obligated to do anything except fix your vehicle. Most states the lemon law does not kick in until after X number of attempts at fixing the same issue.
good luck and believe I know this sucks.
Like 80% of built Broncos have this engine and so far the failures are extremely limited. Issuing a full recall of any vehicles with this engine before they understand why it’s happening would be a bit insane.
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Have you not been reading this forum? The Ford assembly line and quality checks are crap. There have been multiple hoses that fell off because the clamps weren't tight. Broncos built flat out missing parts, MIC tops that are blatantly screwed up. Loose battery cables, Heck there is a one guy who's rear seat didn't match his front seats.
I would rather have my Bronco completely torn down and rebuilt by a small handful of folks that are more focused on repairing my Bronco than the group of people that seem to be building this piss poor excuse of "Ford Tough" and more focused on who knows what (But it ain't doing their job right).
I wouldn't panic just yet. He's a Ford tech but a Jeep guy, so there's more salt than McDonald's fries. I note he says they're waiting on parts for 2 engines, not 2 engines, which could be just about anything.
Not sure how real that 30 engines figure is either, I'm sure it's perception, and he also doesn't limit it to Bronco engines.
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