Ford's Leadership and Financial Situation Effect On Bronco

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The auto industry is staring down the barrel of the delay in replacement due to 6-8 year notes. For the first 25+ years of my driving life, the longest note anyone got for a new car was 5 years but that is just middle of the road at this point. The auto industry as a whole is not prepared for the slower replacement rate these 6-8 year notes will bring. Expect every brand to suffer for the next 5 years as sales dip.
 

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about 150k miles in a stock 250 that is meticulously maintained, and 75k in a lifted 250 that I treat like crap, never seen this issue, and that is on some horrible washboard roads at speed.

Just like with the jeep, this is likely a loose bolt on the panhard bar/linkage. there may be some poor Ford QA involved here, but it is also likely that he installed a leveling kit (and a cheap one at that), and didn't get everything tightened down properly.
Same shit with death wobble on Harley's. most of the time it comes down to poor attention paid to the triple tree head bearings and/or poor maintance. bald tires, or some bullshit raked triple tree that messes up the trail too bad.
I am not going to add much for fear of repercussions. But i'll say that you (as well as most people) probably have a good hardpoint and assembly stackup. This has certainly been observed publicly on vehicles which did not have loose or mistreated parts.
 

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The price averages most likely also include "fleet" sales, hence lowering price. The main thing is that over the last 30 years, passenger cars went up 22% and pickups 163% ... doesn't take a great mind to realize your getting scammed.
Please explain the scam...
 
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1970's - We need more efficient vehicles - 2,4,8 anyone? Pinto? Chevette, VW Beetle with 53 HP
1980's - We want to compete with the Japanese!!! - small crapboxes flood the market
1990's - We want comfortable trucks and SUV's - F Series offers better seating nicer trim levels and Explorer hits the market
2000's - We want fancy trucks and SUV's that are fancier than the fanciest thing available - Platinum, Limited, Titanium trims hit the market
2007 - Apple puts a computer in everyone's pocket
2010's - We want to go as fast as possible in every vehicle you make, we also want as much tech as you can physically cram into our vehicles to be available at our fingertips - twin turbo SUV's with sporty suspensions hit the market, Mustang gets 662 HP and goes 202 MPH, we need screens everywhere to sync up with our phones, real time traffic info, the ability to call everyone I know by voice.
Late 2010's - 2020's - We want to go off-roading (or at least look like we can) but still be comfortable and have plenty of tech available if we want it. - Bronco

Late 2010's to current - VEHICLES ARE TOO EXPENSIVE. See above timeline.

Along the way, 95% of the buying public has demanded more and more creature comforts, drivers have become lazier and when folks have an accident in their vehicles they're expected to walk away instead of breaking a femur and having the steering column crush their heart in a mild 30 mph offset collision.

People have also asked more of their vehicles than ever before and want to do less to maintain them. SUV MPG used to hover around 15 MPG at best, now we're driving similar sized vehicles that get 22-25 MPG.

We want wireless chargers, heated and cooled seats, navigation, two rows of screens to entertain our kids in the back row on a 15 min drive to a friend's house, the ability to stream all 10,000 songs from our device in our SUV, power folding rear seats because pulling a lever is too difficult, doors that slide with a push of a button because God forbid we have to use our arms to move them, 22" aluminum wheels because riding around on rubber bands is kewl, blind spot monitoring because turning your head to look out the side window requires physical movement no one is expected to perform while scrolling through Instagram in rush hour traffic, collision warning systems that tell us to look up from our phones because we're going to hit someone and God forbid we didn't catch the latest influencer unboxing more shit we don't need...

95% of the public has asked for these things, they've been given what they want and the problem is, now they have to pay for it. Cheap and I mean SUPER cheap options exist as long as you're willing to give up all these things people have asked manufacturers to include.

All of this want comes at a price and people have been voting with their wallets (and their bodies) for 50 years.
 
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The auto industry is staring down the barrel of the delay in replacement due to 6-8 year notes. For the first 25+ years of my driving life, the longest note anyone got for a new car was 5 years but that is just middle of the road at this point. The auto industry as a whole is not prepared for the slower replacement rate these 6-8 year notes will bring. Expect every brand to suffer for the next 5 years as sales dip.
They better get used to it if electrics really go 300K or more with a true virtually zero maintenance.
 

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They better get used to it if electrics really go 300K or more with a true virtually zero maintenance.
They have a plan, take a look at all the mobile services that are offered and can be requested from your mobile device. Did you ever think that some manufacturers would be getting into the mobile on site wash and detailing business?
 

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1970's - We need more efficient vehicles - 2,4,8 anyone? Pinto? Chevette, VW Beetle with 53 HP
1980's - We want to compete with the Japanese!!! - small crapboxes flood the market
1990's - We want comfortable trucks and SUV's - F Series offers better seating nicer trim levels and Explorer hits the market
2000's - We want fancy trucks and SUV's that are fancier than the fanciest thing available - Platinum, Limited, Titanium trims hit the market
2007 - Apple puts a computer in everyone's pocket
2010's - We want to go as fast as possible in every vehicle you make, we also want as much tech as you can physically cram into our vehicles to be available at our fingertips - twin turbo SUV's with sporty suspensions hit the market, Mustang gets 662 HP and goes 202 MPH, we need screens everywhere to sync up with our phones, real time traffic info, the ability to call everyone I know by voice.
Late 2010's - 2020's - We want to go off-roading (or at least look like we can) but still be comfortable and have plenty of tech available if we want it. - Bronco

Late 2010's to current - VEHICLES ARE TOO EXPENSIVE. See above timeline.

Along the way, 95% of the buying public has demanded more and more creature comforts, drivers have become lazier and when folks have an accident in their vehicles they're expected to walk away instead of breaking a femur and having the steering column crush their heart in a mild 30 mph offset collision.

People have also asked more of their vehicles than ever before and want to do less to maintain them. SUV MPG used to hover around 15 MPG at best, now we're driving similar sized vehicles that get 22-25 MPG.

We want wireless chargers, heated and cooled seats, navigation, two rows of screens to entertain our kids in the back row on a 15 min drive to a friend's house, the ability to stream all 10,000 songs from our device in our SUV, power folding rear seats because pulling a lever is too difficult, doors that slide with a push of a button because God forbid we have to use our arms to move them, 22" aluminum wheels because riding around on rubber bands is kewl, blind spot monitoring because turning your head to look out the side window requires physical movement no one is expected to perform while scrolling through Instagram in rush hour traffic, collision warning systems that tell us to look up from our phones because we're going to hit someone and God forbid we didn't catch the latest influencer unboxing more shit we don't need...

95% of the public has asked for these things, they've been given what they want and the problem is, now they have to pay for it. Cheap and I mean SUPER cheap options exist as long as you're willing to give up all these things people have asked manufacturers to include.

All of this want comes at a price and people have been voting with their wallets (and their bodies) for 50 years.
and all that some of us want is to ala cart our options, get the big motor, with the offroad package, without a lot of the extra stuff. Granted, many of the safety stuff is required, so no way around that, and no real issues there.
 

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Mobile Service anyone? Our van is finally here as of this week.

Mobile Service Van.jpg
 

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What about self driving cars? What if you had to choose the amount and type of coverage you want for your 20 min automated trip to a Royals game in a driverless car? $10 to insure yourself for 20 minutes in the event that the vehicle is involved in an accident sound good? Grab that from your FordPass app.

https://foundershield.com/insurance-for-autonomous-vehicles-self-driving-cars/
 

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It's a revenue stream my friend. They put a little tarp thing under your car and catch the water to reuse it and detail your ride on site. It's not a new idea, just something available from Ford as part of FordPass. Oh, are you not there for them to unlock it, just give them access to FordPass and they can unlock it.
 








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