Lockers Question

[HoosierDaddy]

I hadn't thought of going past 30s for tyres. I only wanted a rear locker for times when I'm out and get hung up in sand or mud, but I'm not into rock crawling or anything terribly serious. That's one of the reasons I got the base w/o the sas upgrade.

Ok, good news, then you don't need to worry about touching the front and down the road IF you do get a bigger tire, you'll most likely be fine gear-wise.

That just leaves the sucky part that you have to mount a new pinion gear because of the welded ring gear/carrier fiasco, the ring and pinion gears are matched sets.

Looks like it might be damn near even cost to re-gear with an ARB vs a whole new Ford replacement E=locker axle. You might be able to get the whole axle housing discounted at various dealers.

Cool thing about the Do It Yourself locker route, you can leave it locked and it stays that way without a computer nanny unlocking it as it sees fit.

It would be REALLY cool if we could get and use the dash mounted HERO switches (or similar) for add-ons like this. Research required on that front.

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[BrentC]

Would installing a winch may be a simpler and cheaper option than doing the locking diff?

 

[Gabby]

Would installing a winch may be a simpler and cheaper option than doing the locking diff?

Possibly, but I don't always have winch points to drag myself out of.

@HoosierDaddy If the hero switches were powered individually then it would work, but I think they're all on a single bus.

 

[Function_7]

Hey all,
I don’t want to hijack, just looking for adjacent information. I have an OBX with the factory rear locker already. I’m in the process of adding the ARB twin compressor
If I want to add a front locker, all I’m lookin’ at it is the locker itself, and the new gear set? (And probably install)

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Hey all,
I don’t want to hijack, just looking for adjacent information. I have an OBX with the factory rear locker already. I’m in the process of adding the ARB twin compressor
If I want to add a front locker, all I’m lookin’ at it is the locker itself, and the new gear set? (And probably install)

In theory, yes, but I'm not certain how feasible it is to crack open the 190 case for the install, or how cost effective to just upgrade to the M210.


you can buy the M210 with e locker in either 4.7 or 4.46 right now for $1965 from Ford performance. This also requires the two sasquatch half shafts @$495 ea

I don't have a clue what is available for the M190 FDU.

 

[orion]

In theory, yes, but I'm not certain how feasible it is to crack open the 190 case for the install, or how cost effective to just upgrade to the M210.


you can buy the M210 with e locker in either 4.7 or 4.46 right now for $1965 from Ford performance. This also requires the two sasquatch half shafts @$495 ea

I don't have a clue what is available for the M190 FDU.

Plus the shorter drive shaft!

 

[Digger 5]

Hey all! I couldn't order lockers when I bought my truck, but I understand that ARB sells an air locker, and there might be other options... What I can't figure out is what the cost would be and what exactly my options are. I have tried looking at ARB-authorized dealers in the US but I haven't come across one that seems to sell the air lockers, or if they do, I'm not seeing it.

Such thoughts? Comments? Random rantings about how Ford should allow lockers on base models w/o Sasquatch....

By the way you plan to use your rig, it sounds like you just need a rear Air Locker. That's easily done by getting the Bronco m220 4.46 gear set and an Air Locker (RD245).
https://www.extremeterrain.com/ford...VBxGtBh0lgQrLEAQYAyABEgLRaPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Gabby]

By the way you plan to use your rig, it sounds like you just need a rear Air Locker. That's easily done by getting the Bronco m220 4.46 gear set and an Air Locker (RD245).
https://www.extremeterrain.com/ford...VBxGtBh0lgQrLEAQYAyABEgLRaPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Ok Digger, I tried looking it up and I'm stil a bit at a loss. Why that gear ratio and not another? I was thinking 4.10, but honestly I'm not that savvy on final drive gears.

 

[Digger 5]

I believe you said you had 4.46 gears. There are no replacement gears available for the m190 front yet so you have to match what you have up front in the rear.

 

[Gabby]

I believe you said you had 4.46 gears. There are no replacement gears available for the m190 front yet so you have to match what you have up front in the rear.

Yes, but why that ratio? That's the part I don't quite get, which ratios are good for what.

 

[refade1]

Converting to a M210 might be a better option than getting an air locker on a 3.73. For what your paying might as well do a swap. Also these prices are directly from ford at MSRP. I am certain you can get these on discount, if you search around... Yes I know everyone is going to say "WELL MIGHT AS WELL SELL YOUR BRONCO AND GET A SAS!!!!?!??". Yes but its yours and you can make it to your liking, you can also sell your used parts and that can bring down the price as well.

BRONCO 2021-2022 M210 FRONT DRIVE UNIT 4.70 RATIO
$1,965.00

BRONCO M220 REAR AXLE ASSEMBLY 4.70 RATIO W/ELECTRONIC LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL
$2,485.00

BRONCO M210 PAINTED HALF SHAFT KIT
$495.00

Total:
$4945

 

[GI_Jo_Nathan]

Yes, but why that ratio? That's the part I don't quite get, which ratios are good for what.

Because they have to match and you already have 4.46. If you only replace the rear you will need to stay with 4.46. Which will be fine for your use anyway.

 

[Gabby]

Because they have to match and you already have 4.46. If you only replace the rear you will need to stay with 4.46. Which will be fine for your use anyway.

No, I get that. But what is the advantage of a 4.46 over a 4.10? Or a 3.65? That's the part I'm not understanding and all the YouTubes I'm finding are for cars looking to drift.

 

[LockedBronco]

No, I get that. But what is the advantage of a 4.46 over a 4.10? Or a 3.65? That's the part I'm not understanding and all the YouTubes I'm finding are for cars looking to drift.

The higher the number faster off the line but you lose highway speed

Lower number slower off the line but highway speed will be more

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