New SSM 51014 released by Ford explaining 2.7 engine dipstick confusion

[cowman]

Listen I’m not going back and forth with you. NOTHING is wishwashy anymore. There are two separate SSMs in response to oil capacity and dipstick. Case closed. They acknowledged and provided guidance.

Why is that not enough for you?

Nevermind don’t answer. I’m sure I know what you will say.

Bronco owners don't get SSMs.... so as of now as my manual says 7qt 2.7.... and yes 2.3 gets 6.2qt.... so they are saying a 2.3 single turbo is to hold more or the same oil as a TWIN turbo 2.7..... don't believe it..... Ford just looking for a way out on the WRONG dip stick on the 2.7...

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[Ducati1098]

Bronco owners don't get SSMs.... so as of now as my manual says 7qt 2.7.... and yes 2.3 gets 6.2qt.... so they are saying a 2.3 single turbo is to hold more or the same oil as a TWIN turbo 2.7..... don't believe it..... Ford just looking for a way out on the WRONG dip stick on the 2.7...

Once again… not sure how many times it really needs to be said.. They’re in the process of correcting all publications. So when they change it to 6 quarts instead of 7, will you magically believe it then?

 

[SavSqch]

Bronco owners don't get SSMs.... so as of now as my manual says 7qt 2.7.... and yes 2.3 gets 6.2qt.... so they are saying a 2.3 single turbo is to hold more or the same oil as a TWIN turbo 2.7..... don't believe it..... Ford just looking for a way out on the WRONG dip stick on the 2.7...

We don’t need to. We are not an authorized Ford dealership. Your response is very weak.

Again put in whatever you want. No one cares.

Whether you choose to accept it, it’s been officially responded to by Ford.

 

[cowman]

Once again… not sure how many times it really needs to be said.. They’re in the process of correcting all publications. So when they change it to 6 quarts instead of 7, will you magically believe it then?

Only if they say the 2.3 is to hold 5qt..... 1 less turbo and less lines... if they made a mistake on the 2.7... then they may have made a mistake on the 2.3.... but then they would have to have a recall on the 2.3 dip stick..... so to save money.... just fill it overfull with 6 qt..... Ford's thinking....

 

[Ducati1098]

Only if they say the 2.3 is to hold 5qt..... 1 less turbo and less lines... if they made a mistake on the 2.7... then they may have made a mistake on the 2.3.... but then they would have to have a recall on the 2.3 dip stick..... so to save money.... just fill it overfull with 6 qt..... Ford's thinking....

You obviously just don't understand and you're logic is extremely flawed. There have been 2.3's and 2.7's in multiple other vehicles for years. Both of which have always taken 6 quarts. Just because an engine is smaller and has one less turbo doesn't mean it cant take the same amount of oil.

 

[cowman]

You obviously just don't understand. and you're logic is extremely flawed. There have been 2.3's and 2.7's in multiple other vehicles for years. Both of which have always taken 6 quarts. Just because an engine is smaller and has one less turbo doesn't mean it cant take the same amount of oil.

But the Bronco 2.7 is the nano engine not the same as the older 2.7

 

[Ducati1098]

But the Bronco 2.7 is the nano engine not the same as the older 2.7

Lol good lord… okay I’m done arguing with you. You clearly think you know it all stick with 7 quarts my man, I don’t care.

 

[TXscooterguy]

It's for times like this when you need that extra quart.

 

[Altitude]

Looking at the on-line owner's manual under Capacities and Specs, looks like they may be in the process of updating.

Owners Manual up to 06/19/2022:

06/20/2022 and later builds is listed as [Blank]

 

[cowman]

Lol good lord… okay I’m done arguing with you. You clearly think you know it all stick with 7 quarts my man, I don’t care.

As I have stated... 7qt for me.... and by the way... I do know it all...

 

[AMTRV]

Lots of ridiculous rhetoric here…..but it does make for amusing reading.

 

[Rkgzx9leftcoast]

I have always thought part of the problem with the incorrect reading is the fact that the 2.7 has a top mount cartridge filter, which drains back down when the engine is shut off. While running I would imagine the cartridge area holds at least 1/5 quart or more of oil... Just my take.

I know there is a company that makes a spin on filter adapter retrofit for the 2.7

 

[Fonz54]

No, SSM 50981 says 6 is correct

How do you get a hold of the service bulletins?

 

[cowman]

How do you get a hold of the service bulletins?

You don't... only dealers get them and the customer is left in the dark... then you have to believe "my dealer said"

 

[Fonz54]

I have no skin in this game cause I ordered a 2.3L.

But as someone who usually does his own oil changes, I'm personally following the manual and the dip stick that came with the vehicle. That's all I can be expected to do as a customer. If either of those turn out to be wrong, Ford can issue a recall on the dip stick and update the manual over the air to my vehicle. If they don't and decide to sweep something under the rug (or whatever nonsense they want to try to do)... that's what the warranty is for.

The 2022 manual currently lists 6 qts for the 2.7L... so... that's what I'd be going with if I currently had a 2022 2.7L.

Thanks for the info though @Ducati1098... I admittedly have ignored this topic since I have the 2.3L, but apparently people have gotten super passionate about it.

The 2022 Owner's Manual I downloaded from Ford says it is for Vehicles Built Up To 6/19/2022 says 2.7L oil capacity is 7 quarts. There is another manual on the Ford website that says it is for vehicles built from 6/20/2022, all capacities are metric so not sure this the Canadian version but in that copy they specify 6 quarts for the 2.7L. WTF?

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