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Is the Sept 18th cutoff really just a clerical marker for MY dealer allocation formulas and we are all still ordering the same Broncos with the same options with the same prices OR does Sept 19th really reflect a brand new MY and we should expect two different B&Ps with slight tweaks to prices, trim levels and options?
Ford doesn't even seem sure what they're doing for MY21....I'm sure they haven't given a thought to what they'll do for '22. Seems to me their long-term planning goes out @ 2 weeks





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I hate to admit that I’m so stupid that I can read fifty pages of this thread and still don’t know what’s going on. (I had too much fun in my youth and lost a few brain cells I wish I had back) Somebody help me out...

Is the Sept 18th cutoff really just a clerical marker for MY dealer allocation formulas and we are all still ordering the same Broncos with the same options with the same prices OR does Sept 19th really reflect a brand new MY and we should expect two different B&Ps with slight tweaks to prices, trim levels and options?
I don’t think anyone can answer this correctly related to options, B&P or models. Except, as of right now, I think your MY assumption cutoff is accurate. For now...
Next month? Who knows what the rules will be.
 

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That SUCKS!
Had to be done...at least now we have a number...as far as pricing and options? We don't technically have that for 21my either! Sounds like little to nothing will change, but 22my gets you past any "late availability" caveats.
 

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Had to be done...at least now we have a number...as far as pricing and options? We don't technically have that for 21my either! Sounds like little to nothing will change, but 22my gets you past any "late availability" caveats.
What's to stop Ford from removing a trim I want, or raising MSRP $1000? It's little things like that I'm concerned about.
 

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I hate to admit that I’m so stupid that I can read fifty pages of this thread and still don’t know what’s going on. (I had too much fun in my youth and lost a few brain cells I wish I had back) Somebody help me out...

1) Is the Sept 18th cutoff really just a clerical marker for MY dealer allocation formulas and we are all still ordering the same Broncos with the same options with the same prices OR

2) does Sept 19th really reflect a brand new MY and we should expect two different B&Ps with slight tweaks to prices, trim levels and options?
My take on it:
1) Yes, at least that is how the Ford memo reads, and how we interpret it...... cutoff date for the formula.
2) Maybe....I'll guess the Sept 18th date reflects Ford's expectation of the number of Broncos they can build for the 2021 MY vs the number of reservations they expect will be turned into actual orders. That date could change significantly for the individual reservation holder depending on reservation conversion and how the allocation formula pans out.
 

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Who’s job is it to educate these people? Ford? Dealer? 6g? Bronco Nation? I think the future customers need to realize they aren’t owed a damn thing dragging their feet and wanting to jump the line in front of reservation holders.
I don't think most of them are trying to jump ahead as much as they just didn't pay attention in any way. I try to keep straight forward with them as I want reservations filled first. I've got a reservation in and am only contesting holding to a 2022 over color. I'm praying we can get sage lol
 

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What's to stop Ford from removing a trim I want, or raising MSRP $1000? It's little things like that I'm concerned about.
Short answer: nothing. But I don't see a reason for it. 21my is going to be only a half year of production. Not a large enough sample to make changes to the lineup. A price increase seems unlikely as supply catches up w/demand. You may end up paying less for more!
 

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He’s not. Read the first post on the thread. Dealers are getting allocation to fill reservation orders based on the formula. You could get screwed based on your dealer not getting enough allocation. That formula has Nothing at all to do with dealer orders for stock.
OK, so to clarify, you are stating that our reservation number and the order we are "in line" no longer has anything to do with when we will get our Broncos? It's all based on how many Broncos our dealer is "allocated" and how quickly we order with our dealer? There was no point in rushing to make a reservation the night of July 13 because I might not get my Bronco for months after someone else who is behind me in line? So, basically everything we've been told by Ford and understood is incorrect and the interpretation of this memo is now gospel?
 

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OK, so to clarify, you are stating that our reservation number and the order we are "in line" no longer has anything to do with when we will get our Broncos? It's all based on how many Broncos our dealer is "allocated" and how quickly we order with our dealer? There was no point in rushing to make a reservation the night of July 13 because I might not get my Bronco for months after someone else who is behind me in line? So, basically everything we've been told by Ford and understood is incorrect and the interpretation of this memo is now gospel?
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OK, so to clarify, you are stating that our reservation number and the order we are "in line" no longer has anything to do with when we will get our Broncos? It's all based on how many Broncos our dealer is "allocated" and how quickly we order with our dealer? There was no point in rushing to make a reservation the night of July 13 because I might not get my Bronco for months after someone else who is behind me in line? So, basically everything we've been told by Ford and understood is incorrect and the interpretation of this memo is now gospel?
It matters as to where you are in line with your dealer. If you reserved the first night, you are probably fine with any dealer, as you’ll be at the front of their line. But yes...Ford was misleading to the consumer in what they said about how it would work. They buckled and changed it.
 

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You could get screwed based on your dealer not getting enough allocation.
Actually, I won't get screwed at all. Ford will. Because this multi-Ford-owning guy who has influenced his parents and children to buy Ford will walk and never come back. You don't create a reservation system a year in advance of vehicle delivery and continually promote that process and then completely ignore it and screw over devoted customers. Right now, I trust more that Ford wouldn't make such a colossal mistake than some random dealership employee trying to interpret a memo. But if I'm wrong, my reservation will not be converted to an order. And my next car won't have a blue oval.
 
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Wow...this is all really starting to piss me off!!!

Ford initially told their customers orders would be filled as close to reservation dates as possible. I completely understand prioritization based on model, material availability and even regional delivery. But all this dealer preferences bullshit is just that...BULLSHIT!

"F" Ford...and "F" their F'ing Bronco! Jeep Rubicon here I come! I'm out!!!
I wouldn't quit yet. For all we know, these could be Jeep dealers trying to mind-screw us. 😂 I will wait and see what reality is before I make an irreversible decision.
 

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What you experianced was a publicity stunt for the tour is my guess. One of the things that gave Ford an edge allowing them to cut expenses was a production line where only one model option package and color was produced. Allowed the company to produce higher qulity cars at a cheaper price. Previous each car would be configured as ordered slowing the assembly line down resulting in higher prices cars with more ah oh's.
Anyone can tour the Ford Rouge plant where F-150s are made and confirm exactly what the prior post said: the vehicles coming down the line are in no specific order with regard to color or specific options. That's the great thing about computer automation. The computer can tell you exactly what options/features need to be installed on that VIN.

P.S. If anyone ever finds themselves in the Detroit area, I highly recommend getting the combined ticket for the Ford museum and Rouge factory tour. 👍🏻👍🏻
 

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Actually, I won't get screwed at all. Ford will. Because this multi-Ford-owning guy who has influenced his parents and children to buy Ford will walk and never come back. You don't create a reservation system a year in advance of vehicle delivery and continually promote that process and then completely ignore it and screw over devotes customers. Right now, I trust more that Ford wouldn't make such a colossal mistake than some random dealership employee trying to interpret a memo. But if I'm wrong, my reservation will not be converted to an order. And my next car won't have a blue oval.
Follow up on what @Gamecock said- I believe its been stated that when your order is converted and it clears the initial allocation, it will be built in the global time stamp order subject to commodities etc.
 

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