74Weld Steering upgrades- Bushings and Housing!

[Tex]

Anyways, for the time being we can get empty housing from 74 and if someone has a Hoss 3.0, Hoss 2.0, or Raptor steering already, we can transplant the parts over.

Yeah...that's exactly what I've been waiting on. I prepaid for the bare housing because I have a donor 3.0 rack already.

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[Exodus4x4]

Yeah...that's exactly what I've been waiting on. I prepaid for the bare housing because I have a donor 3.0 rack already.

Then it should be here this week

 

[Broncobro04]

I saw this. If you look in the description though it says recommended for stock wheel and tire sizes. Not sure if that’s just a cya thing or if it’s not as beefy as the broncbuster housing, hence the lower price

 

[Bronkers]

Oil-impregnated-bronze?

I believe similar/same as sintered bronze. Way I understand is it starts as bronze powder then some amount of oil is added and then they compress it under extreme force and with the related heat, it becomes a solid, "permanently" lubricated material

In some applications a 'fiber glide' bushing is a step better, but guessing 74weld has done their homework

 

[mcinfantry]

I saw this. If you look in the description though it says recommended for stock wheel and tire sizes. Not sure if that’s just a cya thing or if it’s not as beefy as the broncbuster housing, hence the lower price

lol

 

[Merc4x4]

They had a recall on them. Happened right before 74Weld released the rack for sale but Ford assured them it wouldn’t be an issue getting them good donors for the rack builds. Turns out that wasn’t true.
Anyways, for the time being we can get empty housing from 74 and if someone has a Hoss 3.0, Hoss 2.0, or Raptor steering already, we can transplant the parts over.

If you transplant the standard rack components (HOSS 1 and 2) to the 74Weld housing, will that housing have the tie rod boot diameter for HOSS 1 and 2? or HOSS 3 and 4?

I ask because I read on here the Icon tie rod boots fit the HOSS 1 and 2 rack.
I understand some have installed the tie rods on the HOSS 3 and 4 rack, but stretching the boot sounds like a failure waiting to happen. Or at the very least, a PITA to install.

Maybe the standard rack with the aforementioned 74Weld housing and bushings plus the Icon tie rods would be a reliable combination if you're not too rough on the rocks.

All of the above in the context of running 37's and a lift.

 

[Exodus4x4]

If you transplant the standard rack components (HOSS 1 and 2) to the 74Weld housing, will that housing have the tie rod boot diameter for HOSS 1 and 2? or HOSS 3 and 4?

I ask because I read on here the Icon tie rod boots fit the HOSS 1 and 2 rack.
I understand some have installed the tie rods on the HOSS 3 and 4 rack, but stretching the boot sounds like a failure waiting to happen. Or at the very least, a PITA to install.

Maybe the standard rack with the aforementioned 74Weld housing and bushings plus the Icon tie rods would be a reliable combination if you're not too rough on the rocks.

All of the above in the context of running 37's and a lift.

Spot on. All the billet housings will require some sort of upgrades tie rod because they’re all made for the larger boot. Plus, it just makes sense. Spend a little more and wheel with peace of mind.

Also correct on the Hoss 2.0 housing.

 

[Snacktime]

What I have physically verified is Hoss 1.0 and Hoss 3.0 share the same parts except inside the gear drive input and the motor. I haven't taken apart the input on a Hoss 3.0 yet.

Same cross shaft, drive belt, plastic gears... The changes are mostly to the housing which is why hoss 1.0 in a full 74weld billet housing should be just as strong as the hoss 3.0 in a full 74weld billet housing.

The big difference is Hoss 3.0 steering rack is cheaper to buy from Ford. And should be a cheaper turn key part by $400-500.

 

[Bmadda]

OK now I am officially confused...let's recap? These dr side bushings and ps housing end are for 1.0 rack? 3.0 rack? or both? If both does that require going back to a 1.0 Passenger side bellows? Or do you install a passenger side 3.0 bellows when upgrading a 1.0 rack? Nuts and bolts explanation please...no commentary on "this way is better or this way...blah blah blah" please?

 

[Snacktime]

@Bmadda
They have drivers bushing for Hoss 1.0 and Hoss 3.0.
They have a passenger side housing for Hoss 1.0
They can make a Hoss 3.0 housing if we bug them enough, by just changing the boot mount circumference.

 

[kodiakisland]

If I have a 3.0 rack, is the need for the bushing the same as the 1.0? I'm going to the 3.0 rack for long tern durability vs. the 1.0 rack, but I am not going to be pushing it to it's limit. Is the 3.0 a better designed and stronger rack than the 1.0 to not need this upgrade for most off road use?

I'm just not sure if I need this as I thought I was getting a more durable rack as is going to the 3.0.

 

[Snacktime]

@kodiakisland I don't think it's required with the 3.0 rack unless your running 40s.

 

[Bmadda]

@Bmadda
They can make a Hoss 3.0 housing if we bug them enough, by just changing the boot mount circumference.

Or, alternatively, could you bolt the existing pass side housing to a 3.0 rack and use a 1.0 bellows? I have used a 1.0 bellows on a 3.0 tie rod already. If everything else is the same then that would work as it is now?

 

[Snacktime]

Or, alternatively, could you bolt the existing pass side housing to a 3.0 rack and use a 1.0 bellows? I have used a 1.0 bellows on a 3.0 tie rod already. If everything else is the same then that would work as it is now?

Yes, that what i am doing tomorrow.

 

[Valhalla]

@snacso your advice for 40s would be a 3.0 rackwith this upgrade, or a full 74 weld rack? I do eastern Tennessee rock crawling, it sometimes involves that skinny pedal. 40s would be aired to 0 to 5 psi most likely, depending on tire.

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