Post your 2.7L Bronco Ford Performance Calibration Tune review

[Cux211]

As someone who has a FRPP tuned 2.7L and a neighbor with a Whipple one, I thoroughly enjoy the snappy-ness of the transmission on both. I can feel that the Whipple tune has more power - but the FRPP ease of use (utilizing Ford Performance's warranty at any dealer) is what sold me. I would recommend either one at this point - if you wanted to go with an intercooler, the Whipple one is 100% the route I'd go.
Let us know if we can assist with either, we have both going back on sale on the 22nd.
- Logan @ Lethal

Thanks, not so sure the whole “warranty” thing is gonna sway me or not from what I’ve read the ford performance warranty seems to be muddy waters anyway. I’ll figure it out once I pick up the vehicle from what I under stand nothings been released for the 24’s anyway

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[LethalPerformance]

Thanks, Logan.

Would you say the transmission programming is similar? Also, is the HP increase with the Whipple much more noticeable? Comparing dyno numbers, the Whipple puts down a lot bigger numbers, but with Torque management in play that doesn’t always translate to street performance and feel.

I could not tell much of a difference if any in terms of transmission tuning. Both correct the stock "slop" in between gears.

 

[mdube72]

Question for the group - if you move ahead and install the Tune - would Ford be able to tell if you reverted it back to the stock tune (for whatever reason) Is there a way for them to see if the vehicle was tuned and reverted - a flag/audit stamp etc ? I recall from my old Audi days that the system had some type of flag that could be seen in the system.

 

[King of Lizzards]

Does procal store both tunes? If i want to switch back to stock, is it on the procal, or do i have to go back to the laptop each time to switch tunes into the procal?

 

[JFelty]

Does procal store both tunes? If i want to switch back to stock, is it on the procal, or do i have to go back to the laptop each time to switch tunes into the procal?

Yes to the best of my knowledge it stores both the Stock and Ford Performance Cal on the device. There should also be a back up of you stock config in your Ford Performance account.

 

[Gluestick]

I cannot imagine a scenario in which swapping back makes sense though. It’s VIN locked so you can’t transfer it to a new Bronco, and trying to swap for a warranty claim is a great way to look like you’re trying to commit fraud.

 

[Cux211]

Question for the group - if you move ahead and install the Tune - would Ford be able to tell if you reverted it back to the stock tune (for whatever reason) Is there a way for them to see if the vehicle was tuned and reverted - a flag/audit stamp etc ? I recall from my old Audi days that the system had some type of flag that could be seen in the system.

There’s a flash counter meaning it registers every time the ecm is flashed so yes if they’re looking they can tell it was flashed

 

[King of Lizzards]

I cannot imagine a scenario in which swapping back makes sense though. It’s VIN locked so you can’t transfer it to a new Bronco, and trying to swap for a warranty claim is a great way to look like you’re trying to commit fraud.

Selling or trading in the bronco is a reason to return to stock.

Doing actual testing between the 2 tunes such as 0-60 draggies is a reason to flip back and forth without the delay of swapping them into the unit from a laptop.

 

[BroncoDymond88]

As someone who has a FRPP tuned 2.7L and a neighbor with a Whipple one, I thoroughly enjoy the snappy-ness of the transmission on both. I can feel that the Whipple tune has more power - but the FRPP ease of use (utilizing Ford Performance's warranty at any dealer) is what sold me. I would recommend either one at this point - if you wanted to go with an intercooler, the Whipple one is 100% the route I'd go.
Let us know if we can assist with either, we have both going back on sale on the 22nd.
- Logan @ Lethal

Do dealers install these? Mine has refused me twice on both my trucks lol

 

[Gluestick]

Selling or trading in the bronco is a reason to return to stock.

Doing actual testing between the 2 tunes such as 0-60 draggies is a reason to flip back and forth without the delay of swapping them into the unit from a laptop.

but you can’t move it to the next vehicle so swapping to stock to trade it in or sell it is just removing the fun someone else could have. Seems like nonsense. I also don’t buy the notion of fast swapping tunes to compare performance- you’ll just be crapping all over the computers learning.

 

[King of Lizzards]

but you can’t move it to the next vehicle so swapping to stock to trade it in or sell it is just removing the fun someone else could have. Seems like nonsense. I also don’t buy the notion of fast swapping tunes to compare performance- you’ll just be crapping all over the computers learning.

Do you have this tuner? Returning it to stock does not mean new buyer cannot have it and load the tune in 2 minutes if they so choose.

You are assuming everyone wants to run premium fuel or (if traded in) the dealer wants the issues of their customer putting in 87 octane gas.

If anyone knows for sure if the procal 4 holds both tunes, I'd appreciate it.

 

[Gluestick]

I do have the tuner. I have the tune installed and the device and cable stored in the garage with a bunch of takeoff parts I’ve upgraded. I don’t plan to sell the bronco but if I did it’s going “as-is” with the box of parts in the back. If your concern is the sell and need to swap, you’d just load that file I figure and run the flash. It just doesn’t seem like something a person would ever want to rapid swap for any reason for which they’d be designing. Piggyback tuners have that capability as an alternative.

 

[JFelty]

Do you have this tuner? Returning it to stock does not mean new buyer cannot have it and load the tune in 2 minutes if they so choose.

You are assuming everyone wants to run premium fuel or (if traded in) the dealer wants the issues of their customer putting in 87 octane gas.

If anyone knows for sure if the procal 4 holds both tunes, I'd appreciate it.

In the ProCal while connected to the vehicle you get two options performance cal and return to stock.
When connected to a PC (not connected to Ford Perf) you see the stock file and the Performance file. So yes it is saved on the ProCal.

 

[King of Lizzards]

Thanks JFelty

 

[ejones91]

Is there any word on when we can expect support for MY24?

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