I hate to admit, but I am in that bandwagon. I LOVE the EB... I have had 3. They are too dam expensive now to even enjoy. $40-50k to rebuild one "right", then it is irreplaceable and can't be enjoyed. Bodywork is too expensive to risk. A rear quarter is PIA to take the aftermarket parts and make it right. Same with rockers. Doors are unobtanium. I have had EBs since I was 16 and I am now almost 50.If the new Bronco is perceived as the worthy successor to the EB, and if people are able to outfit and accessorize the new Bronco into a more personal vehicle, then you might find the demand of people wanting to drop 40+ grand on an EB not as strong.
My buddy dropped 50 grand on a new Wrangler - because Wrangler is enough like the older Wranglers/CJs. So that was 50 grand by buddy was not spending on some old Jeep - because he had a new option.
I think the die hard old 4x4 crowd will still demand an EB. But also there is a big spending "it vehicle" demographic that got into EBs, and that demo might soon have another option. (And arguably that crowd would be better off with a new more fuel efficient, more comfortable modern version.)
We'll have to see what Ford delivers ...
Yeah I think getting into the 30 grand and especially 40/50 grand range, some people are going to consider if they really want an EB and all that entials, when instead they have the option of plunking similar cash down on a brand new Bronco. Assuming Ford delivers on the new Bronco.I hate to admit, but I am in that bandwagon. I LOVE the EB... I have had 3. They are too dam expensive now to even enjoy. $40-50k to rebuild one "right", then it is irreplaceable and can't be enjoyed. Bodywork is too expensive to risk. A rear quarter is PIA to take the aftermarket parts and make it right. Same with rockers. Doors are unobtanium. I have had EBs since I was 16 and I am now almost 50.
There is no reason to buy a CJ and fix it up anymore... A brand new sport model JL is more reliable, more fun, more practical and less expensive.
Broncos will always be collectible.. I can't see the $200-300k that a Gateway or Icon Bronco going away for those that have money to burn. The $10-30k Drivers (and that is really what a $20k Bronco is) are going to be interesting. I never want to cause body damage offroading, but I do take comfort in a new Bronco being somewhat repairable and parts will be available.
The Ecoboost make sense for performance/enthusiast choices. V8's are nostalgic and sound amazing, but stock for stock the turbo 6's will win. Have you driven one by chance? They don't sound all that great, but they get up and move!I think there are some that are gonna hate it no matter what and others that would love and defend it if it only had 3 wheels.
For me the SFA/IFS argument is neither here nor there as I doubt I will ever be offroading to an extent that it will matter much. Some muddy/flooded trails at most. From reading between the lines, it sounds like there may be a SFA available in some iteration of the 6G Bronco anyways.
My only disappointment thus far was learning of the lack of a V8. The ecoboost engines are just fine and will surely do what's needed but in my mind just seemed like a rather "meh" choice for an enthusiast vehicle where practicality (mpg vs output) isn't always the foremost concern. In my view, a V8 would've provided a neat alternative that the Jeep doesn't offer and plus they just sound cool. Regardless, I'm not losing sleep over it.
It never ceases to amaze me how many threads or posts you are willing to create about nothing more than whining that other people don't have the same opinion as you.
well....yeah"It seems like even if Ford created a solid axle, V8, high towing capacity, no technology Bronco that started at $20k people would just bitch about how it doesn't start at $18k or that it should come with one-ton axles as an option."
In the words of luke combs-" bitchin and moanin on an on bout the time i had"
They don't win in loaded MPG and they don't win in throttle response.The Ecoboost make sense for performance/enthusiast choices. V8's are nostalgic and sound amazing, but stock for stock the turbo 6's will win. Have you driven one by chance? They don't sound all that great, but they get up and move!
Why are you comparing aftermarket fi v8 to a factory engine? That's just sillyThey don't win in loaded MPG and they don't win in throttle response.
They certainly don't win in ultimate power if you FI the V-8.
And yes, I get that most won't care about any of that in the new bronco
Because it can be done (VERY easily and reliably). Not so with a 2.7 ECO ..........Why are you comparing aftermarket fi v8 to a factory engine? That's just silly
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