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Technically they are not fire extinguishers per the definition of the law. They are sticks the expose you to a hazard and/or cause increase in potential exposure.

NO SAFETY DATA SHEET
not testable per definitions in place

You can't legally have them at work in the USA!
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Very cool system. One thought …are those Flares mounted in your pics? I am not sure mounting flares near your face is a good idea…in the event of accident or accidental discharge. Just my thought.
Those are actually sticks of dynamite, used for off-roading and you encounter a big rock or tree you need out of the way.
 

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not testable per definitions in place
:chuckle: Is this just a paperwork problem? Somebody in the government refuses to test them because there isn't an entry on the form for the extinguisher type?

From their FAQ:

Originating in Italy, Element has been certified for sale in Europe by CE and TUV. Institutionally it has been tested and certified for use by multiple international military and police groups who have adopted it for active use.

In North America, Underwriters Laboratories (UL) is responsible for the certification of fire extinguishers. UL does their testing to a standard that contains a form (physical shape) component followed by a performance component. Because Element's form does not fit inside of UL's guidelines of what a traditional fire extinguisher looks like (i.e. compressed gas cylinder with a hose and measurement gauge) it is immediately passed over for performance testing. At present UL is being campaigned to update its standards to recognize the different form offered by Element and allow it an opportunity to be tested and certified.

Until the standards are updated Element cannot be used to substitute extinguishers in regulated environments that require a UL (or UL endorsed) certification. Element can however be freely used as an supplement to the extinguishers used where regulation exists.

There are no restrictions in non-regulated environments (car, home, personal garage, etc.) allowing Element to be used freely.
 

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:chuckle: Is this just a paperwork problem? Somebody in the government refuses to test them because there isn't an entry on the form for the extinguisher type?

From their FAQ:

Originating in Italy, Element has been certified for sale in Europe by CE and TUV. Institutionally it has been tested and certified for use by multiple international military and police groups who have adopted it for active use.

In North America, Underwriters Laboratories (UL) is responsible for the certification of fire extinguishers. UL does their testing to a standard that contains a form (physical shape) component followed by a performance component. Because Element's form does not fit inside of UL's guidelines of what a traditional fire extinguisher looks like (i.e. compressed gas cylinder with a hose and measurement gauge) it is immediately passed over for performance testing. At present UL is being campaigned to update its standards to recognize the different form offered by Element and allow it an opportunity to be tested and certified.

Until the standards are updated Element cannot be used to substitute extinguishers in regulated environments that require a UL (or UL endorsed) certification. Element can however be freely used as an supplement to the extinguishers used where regulation exists.

There are no restrictions in non-regulated environments (car, home, personal garage, etc.) allowing Element to be used freely.
You are correct, but as a regulator that goes out and stirs shit for a living these are damn fun to find on a jobsite.

Sad part is your are so much better off putting that money towards a real fire extinguisher. The lack of being able to shut it off is the hazard and if I can keep 1 person from a serious eye injury I have done my part. Good intentions don't always make things right in the end. Element fire sticks things are not a safety device, they are incriminating proof of acknowledging a hazard.
 

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You are correct, but as a regulator that goes out and stirs shit for a living these are damn fun to find on a jobsite.

Sad part is your are so much better off putting that money towards a real fire extinguisher. The lack of being able to shut it off is the hazard and if I can keep 1 person from a serious eye injury I have done my part. Good intentions don't always make things right in the end. Element fire sticks things are not a safety device, they are incriminating proof of acknowledging a hazard.
Right on, good answer. So not a useless tool, potentially better than nothing, but not a great one either.
 

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The Ultimate Overhead Mount System for Your Bronco!

Lobo Off-Road’s Overhead Mount System is the ultimate solution for securely mounting electronics, interior lighting and other gear inside your Bronco’s cockpit, out of the way, overhead. The system is fully adjustable with countless possibilities for mounting accessories.

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This complete OMS Kit includes:

(1) OMS Front Mount
(1) OMS Center Stringer (includes 2 Adjustable Accessory Brackets)
(1) OMS Crossmember

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The OMS Front Mount ties the OMS system into your Bronco’s front overhead structure. It can also be installed by itself to be used for an auxiliary switch system or as a compact overhead storage and mounting system (it makes a perfect sunglasses holder).

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The OMS Center Stinger has a Molle grid top panel for mounting soft products and accessories. The OMS Center Stringer comes with two (2) of our OMS Adjustable Accessory Brackets, which are fully adjustable and can be placed anywhere along the length of the Stringer to hard-mount radios and other gear. The Stringer has a 3-dimensional profile that imparts surprising rigidity to the entire assembly, and allows both horizontal and vertical mounting surfaces along its top and side profiles. Its box shape even allows radios and other components to be recess-mounted up into the Stringer, for the protection of both the component and the occupants. The lower edges are angled to safely present blunt, flat surfaces rather than sharp corners oriented toward the occupants.

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The OMS Crossmember rigidly ties the Center Stringer into the Bronco’s roll cage system, and itself carries multiple slotted holes and faceted surfaces for mounting dome lights and other items. The box profile is angled at the lower edges to safely present blunt, flat surfaces rather than sharp corners oriented toward the occupants.

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We also offer an optional OMS SwitchPros Mount Plate makes it easy to mount a SwitchPros SP-9100 switch panel on to the OMS Front Mount, making it the perfect solution for Broncos without the factory auxiliary switches, for for those that need even more switches.

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The components may be purchased separately or configured together as a complete system at a discounted bundle price. All components of the system are made entirely of 1/8″ aluminum, CNC laser cut and precision brake-formed, then professionally TIG welded for strength and appearance. Assembly and installation are an easy bolt-together affair using the supplied, premium hardware. Each component is available in raw aluminum or finished in either our standard light-textured black powder coat or premium Mica Armor Coat finish.

NOTE: We are currently in process with the first full production run of these OMS products. These will begin shipping next month (April). Order Now to be among the first to receive them!

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very nice rack do you need to remove all the roof panels to install?
 

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Those extinguishers are hot garbage. Don’t get the hype about em.
I was thinking about getting one for my Bronco until I found out they're only for class B:C fires, not class A. Also you have to get closer to the fire than I'm comfortable with. I did buy a small one for my kitchen. I have it in a magnetic mount stuck to the side of my refrigerator.
 

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Each component is available in raw aluminum or finished in either our standard light-textured black powder coat or premium Mica Armor Coat finish.
What does your Mica Armor Coat look like? You don't have samples on your website. Also what does "light-textured" mean?

I'm interested, but would like more information. For example, I get the impression that all three components are stand alone. So someone can buy only the one they need. Please confirm.

Also how much weight will the system support?
 

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Have you personally had one fail? I plan to carry both types myself.
It's not that they fail, they're just practically useless. Just search for some test videos. Stick with a real fire extinguisher. A fire can quickly get out of control and the time wasted trying to get the stick to do something useful could be the difference between minor damage and a complete loss.

The rack is very nice. Will consider one but the next item on my list is an attic tray in the back.
 

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Right on, good answer. So not a useless tool, potentially better than nothing, but not a great one either.
Def better then nothing and can and have worked. But at the price they charge and not working as well as an extinguisher, just get a good extinguisher. I’ve used an extinguisher multiple times in car fires and they are a b***h to put out. Even a large, properly rated extinguisher used properly doesn’t work half the time. These little sticks are decent if you catch it RIGHT away. Past that good luck. Or if it’s a reigniting fire then you’re doubly screwed.
Lot of gimmicky stuff out there trying to reinvent a wheel for the overlanders that doesn’t need reinventing. When push comes to shove and your vehicle is on fire, are you caring about saving storage space or putting the fire out?
 

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Looks like a useful product like a lot of others here have mentioned. Gives you options to mount radios, switches, lights and supplies you need quick access to. I think the extinguishers are more to just show that other products can be easily mounted and spark ideas.

The design is also pretty cool! I like that it’s more boxed and actually surrounds stuff like the radios. Creates a clean look and more opportunities for mounting compared to the other flat style Molle panels on the market. Plus aluminum>steel IMO.

I could see myself getting one of these soon. Nice job Lobo🤘🏼
 

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There is a company that services and sells fire extinguishers pretty much anywhere in the USA. It would make sense to start an account with them, see what they have, and get something from them. Then, if you have a discharge, you have someone that can service it.

Looks like a great part for those that need it. Definitely should be a market for it.
 

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OK if we're done hijacking Chris's thread to debate fire extinguishers, who knows of a good flashlight mount that can hold a tactical LED flashlight up in there, easy to grab without having to unbuckle anything but gripped good enough it won't fall on your head when you hit a bump? Also, I wonder if this thing is rigid enough for a grab handle. Probably not strong enough for me to haul my own fat butt up in there but maybe my wife, she bitches about the placement of the grab handles in the Bronco, they are pretty useless for helping you climb in.
 

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Love the idea and I've been looking at similar products for when my Wildtrak gets here but cost is a bit too high for me.
Really? I would have thought it would cost more!!!
How so? I carry one.
I carry two. Bet my two wou
Those are actually sticks of dynamite, used for off-roading and you encounter a big rock or tree you need out of the way.
wait what? God didn’t distribute the gift of intelligence equally.
 

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Really? I would have thought it would cost more!!!
Yeah I was looking at the Foutz one which is about the only other one out there that looks like it has any substance to it, and it's about the same price. But this one's aluminum and looks like it incorporates a lot more good ideas. I saw it in Chris's Bronco at UBB but I was too excited about driving his Bronco with the X-travel suspension setup I forgot to give the overhead mount a good inspection even though it was right above my head LOL
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