It is what it is weather we like it or not. I was just looking at Jeep and noticed Wrangler 4 door is 3500 max, so it's no better over there. Actually, I'm a bit surprised Ford posted tow ratings so early on. Details like that don't usually become available until last minute. There's still a lot of testing going on and who knows if this will change?
But Jeep has a 1500lb difference between 2 dr and 4 dr just for wheelbase alone, bronco 2 dr has 3500lbs, add 1500lbs and look ya get the 5k most are asking for. I don’t need 8k for towing(or a truck bed), but 3500 doesn’t cut it, so yea for myself and others 5k would be the perfect middle ground. And that’s all most are hoping for. Nobody expects truck towing capability.
exactly our point. We're hoping it will change or they might listen and affect change.
Only on the two door, which if you were hoping to be able to tow anything I wouldn’t think you’d be getting anyways. As you said 4 dr matches, that’s not ahead. So Jeep actually beats the bronco in that there’s a benefit to the 4 dr over the 2 dr for that reason. Which the same benefit should exist in the bronco, all else equal a longer wheelbase should tow better, but it doesn’t, so it’s not a win over Jeep there.
It seems a large number are looking to buy a 2 door here, so that would indeed be a win for Ford. Like I said, there are other choices if Bronco doesn't meet your needs. I want cooled seats, power tilt wheel, memory seat and glass panels in the front sections of the modular roof. Bronco doesn't offer any of those so I'm in the same dilemma. Either I choose to accept that or buy something different. It's all relative in the end.
10million People already crying up a storm over the 5% they "lost"(that they'll never use) with the IFS.... so take another 5% because they want to tow ... my God, we'd never hear the end of it.
I doubt they will miss out on many sales. Only 25% of trucks are used for towing. A smaller amount than that would be towing heavy loads.
Again you missed my point slightly. Of course there’s people that want the 2 door, that’s not what I meant. And if that’s what you want yes the fact the 2 dr tows more than the 2 dr wrangler is a win. But people that were hoping for more than 3500 were expecting to get the 4 door, and expecting it to tow more than the 2 dr. Not making use of the added wheelbase benefit of the 4 dr is what I said was the issue, and a win for Jeep over ford there. And it’s not about creature comforts here, most of which could be added by aftermarket means(however costly). It’s functionality as well as legality(well maybe not actual legal, but liability/insurance issue), even adding the functionality aftermarket doesn’t change the tow rating. Adding upgraded seats or glass panels later by aftermarket means doesn’t change anything legally, or if ford makes them available later they could easily be added to an earlier model without much issue. But adding the ability to tow more aftermarket is a liability issue surpassing the rated tow cap, even if ford makes a tow package later, adding it to an earlier model won’t change its tow rating because it didn’t come with it. And it already should be capable of what most are asking without change if the 2 dr is capable of that much with shorter wheelbase.
Your thoughts are unrealistic and unsafe. There are multiple factors that involve the max trailer weight that can be towed. The first is what’s called the Gross Combined Weight Rating (the rated maximum combined weight of the vehicle and towable). We don’t know that number yet. Once you start adding passengers and cargo you also reduce the trailer towing rating. So you know, any vehicle’s tow rating is not a fixed number. It’s typically based on 1 or 2 passengers weighing 150 lbs with a full tank of fuel and a low 2 digit figure for cargo. Once the cargo & passenger weight increase, the tow rating is reduced.
People may have been hoping for and expecting more, but so far it ain't happening. Probably like so many other things, someone's speculation without any fact lead people to believe the rating would be higher. That's why i keep asking for a source when someone makes a big claim. For the relatively small handful that care about this, Ford probably isn't worrying about losing those sales based on what it might have cost them to build a Bronco with a higher tow rating. As far as my wants, paying $50k plus, I should be able to get what's important to me as well without the need to try and add them later.
