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Wow, got pretty toxic in here.

Just because one doesn't want to haul more than an ATV or boat doesn't mean that fits someone else. I personally would prefer the rating to be 5k similar to other vehicles with a similar size and use like the FJCruiser and 4Runner. I'm still buying it but will grumble a bit when I run into the weight limit. No I don't tow an ATV or a boat. Occasionally I pull a trailer with other things on it that can go up to 4K or a little over. I'll make due.

The 4-door Bronco is an off road vehicle, but being an off road vehicle doesn't mean that it is a one trick pony. I've had properly engineered off road capable vehicles that can tow and haul quite a bit of weight. It didn't take away from their ability on the trail.
Thank you for the refreshing pause and viewpoint. It's been a long 7 months of arguing with trolls-of-the-day and I should know better than to engage by now but it's a part of this truck that I feel passionate about so it's hard not to.





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I would guess an sas. Bronco will be a slightly worse tow vehicle than a non-sas. Bronco. The sas. larger and heavier tires will make a Bronco accelerate, brake, and corner worse than a non-sas. Bronco when not towing, and will also make towing a bit more challenging. One of the reasons I'm not interested in the sas. package, also one of the reasons I'm waiting to hear owner's towing reports before I decide whether to buy a Bronco.
This is largely what the taller 4.7 final drive ratio accommodates for. Make as much of an informed decision as you deem necessary, nothing wrong with that.
 

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All I have to say on this topic is that you'd think Ford would have one-upped Jeep at least a LITTLE on the tow capacity. Will watch and wait to see if an upgraded hitch does anything for y'alls 2021's.
I agree, they should have, and could have, made the 4D Bronco tow rating 5k. They could have upped the GVWR as well. Even though I don't plan on towing anything, I'd have paid the price increase premium for the added capability.

But, they didn't have to. I can only think of 3 new mid-size off road trucks available in the USA. Wrangler, G-Class, and soon the Bronco. Only 2 if you want a removable roof. I don't, but maybe it'll be neat for a bit.

Edit to add mid-size.
 

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Yeah I don’t need a huge capacity but it’d be nice to have the option to pull a little rented camper or something. Most of what I expect to pull would be small utility trailer for kayaks bikes, stuff that doesn’t fit inside, etc. It’s not a deal breaker for me.
 

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My old Cayenne Turbo was rated to tow 7700lbs. Had low-range transfer case and locker center diff (4L), sway bar disconnect, and 'off-road' throttle and traction control cpu mapping. With 32" AT tires it was very good at forest roads and trails, but those are still roads. Off roads, it couldn't compete with my current G on 34's or my friends with Wrangler Rubicons on 35's.
I only towed with the Cayenne once, to bring my summer wheels to a shop to be reconditioned.
The 2010 G Class isn't available with a tow hitch (no room), but other years in the same generation are rated at 7000lbs.
I would not trade an increase of towing capability in the Bronco for a decrease in off road capability. Still, an option would have been nice. I wonder how many would take a $3k+ towing option (got to pay the engineers) over sasquatch?

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I agree, they should have, and could have, made the 4D Bronco tow rating 5k. They could have upped the GVWR as well. Even though I don't plan on towing anything, I'd have paid the price increase premium for the added capability.

But, they didn't have to. I can only think of 3 new mid-size off road trucks available in the USA. Wrangler, G-Class, and soon the Bronco. Only 2 if you want a removable roof. I don't, but maybe it'll be neat for a bit.

Edit to add mid-size.
Where does the jeep GC trailhawk fit into your list of off-road capable mid-size suvs with it being able to run the rubicon and Moab trails?

What about the 4runner and Discovery? Just like the GC, they don’t offer removable roof but neither does your G.
 

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Where does the jeep GC trailhawk fit into your list of off-road capable mid-size suvs with it being able to run the rubicon and Moab trails?

What about the 4runner and Discovery? Just like the GC, they don’t offer removable roof but neither does your G.
Didn't Jeep destroy their GC after taking across the Rubicon? I've watched vids of a crown vic running Moab trails.
The GC and new Discovery are unibody suv's, fairly capable, on par with my old Cayenne, but newer traction control.
None of the 3 you mentioned come with front lockers. The 4runner would be closer to the G, once you add a front locker.
All would require significant mods to accommodate 35's without breaking some part of the drive train.
Really, for new there is only the Wrangler Rubicon. It's easy to add 35's and 2.5" lift. The new G will handle 35's, but the aftermarket support for off road parts is limited. The previous solid axle G is easier. There's also the G 4x42 with 37's. The Bronco Warthog spy shots remind me of those. But I'm talking new vehicles here...
I'm hoping the Bronco will come close to the Wrangler. Ford offering 35's makes me hopeful, but I think it still needs another 2.5" lift over the Sasquatch package.

If I have to significantly modify a new truck to handle 35's and triple lockers, or if/when the Bronco doesn't live up to my expectations, I'm going to build a nice restomod IH Scout (or similar) with LS V8, leather interior, and stout drivetrain. Why deal with all the computers and regulations of a new car if you're going replace all the parts with heavy duty ones anyway?
 

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100% would and have done this. Ok haven't done a 120cc exactly, but done 80cc and have had 200cc minibikes and would for sure do a 120cc bicycle. And 100% recommend it. It's def something you should do, and if nobody ever did stuff exactly like this then we wouldn't have motorcycles today, they literally started as someone strapping an engine to a bicycle.
Maybe he meant 120ci engine. 😄
 

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All I have to say on this topic is that you'd think Ford would have one-upped Jeep at least a LITTLE on the tow capacity. Will watch and wait to see if an upgraded hitch does anything for y'alls 2021's.
Well, in the 2-door, they definitely three-upped (much more than one-upped) Jeep's pathetic 2,000 pound tow rating.

But it would have been golden if it was 4,500 and 5,000 for the 2- and 4-door.
 

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Didn't Jeep destroy their GC after taking across the Rubicon? I've watched vids of a crown vic running Moab trails.
The GC and new Discovery are unibody suv's, fairly capable, on par with my old Cayenne, but newer traction control.
None of the 3 you mentioned come with front lockers. The 4runner would be closer to the G, once you add a front locker.
All would require significant mods to accommodate 35's without breaking some part of the drive train.
Really, for new there is only the Wrangler Rubicon. It's easy to add 35's and 2.5" lift. The new G will handle 35's, but the aftermarket support for off road parts is limited. The previous solid axle G is easier. There's also the G 4x42 with 37's. The Bronco Warthog spy shots remind me of those. But I'm talking new vehicles here...
I'm hoping the Bronco will come close to the Wrangler. Ford offering 35's makes me hopeful, but I think it still needs another 2.5" lift over the Sasquatch package.

If I have to significantly modify a new truck to handle 35's and triple lockers, or if/when the Bronco doesn't live up to my expectations, I'm going to build a nice restomod IH Scout (or similar) with LS V8, leather interior, and stout drivetrain. Why deal with all the computers and regulations of a new car if you're going replace all the parts with heavy duty ones anyway?

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