Manual transmission scraping noise / grinding sound

[Ducati1098]

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[Off road enthusiast]

is your local ford dealer showing @Ducati1098 level expertise?

The skills of certified mechanics, installing these transmissions have nothing to do with the problems that we are experiencing, but rather the fact that these transmissions are poorly designed. For many years Mustang owners have been complaining about similar problems with their manual transmissions made by Getrag..

 

[Lcubed]

The skills of certified mechanics, installing these transmissions have nothing to do with the problems that we are experiencing, but rather the fact that these transmissions are poorly designed. For many years Mustang owners have been complaining about similar problems with their manual transmissions made by Getrag..

FORD signed off on the design for their price point, then chose to accept them for production.

I'm sure, once again, FORD did an AOA analysis and picked a point that met their profit requirement

at the very least, FORD made slightly better decisions here than the MIC 1.0

 

[Chippewa-Pin]

I had the synchros changed about a year ago. 12,000 miles and plenty of cold mornings later and still no noise.

 

[BigHoof]

Sounds like a grind to me. We will see how well the AB version does. I hope it works very well as I may well need it while I am under warranty. The AB has been complained about on this thread, but not a lot so far.

I understand what you are saying but there is not going to be a bunch of shavings which you would have it it was actually grinding. As mentioned many times in this thread, its the Getrag rattle. A simple search will show you this has been common on Getrags for decades. I still believe they will all have it in time when you get some wear, AB or not. What's odd is that for all the issues the Mustang's MT82 has, the rattle is not one of them. We've got an extra gear so maybe related to that being different. A different weight fluid may help in our case? Calmer, the MT82 guru, recommends AMSOIL 75W-90 Manual Transmission & Transaxle Gear Lube in the Mustang. In time once out of warranty, I figure some will give it a try in the Bronco. I tried other OEM spec oil and in the cold still have the rattle. Started early on after the trip home from the dealer. No noise before leaving. Left it idle in neutral and specifically listened for it. I've been holding off doing anything for a bit to be sure the AB actually fixes it. So far, seems like a 50-50% chance of no change.

 

[Off road enthusiast]

I understand what you are saying but there is not going to be a bunch of shavings which you would have it it was actually grinding. As mentioned many times in this thread, its the Getrag rattle. A simple search will show you this has been common on Getrags for decades. I still believe they will all have it in time when you get some wear, AB or not. What's odd is that for all the issues the Mustang's MT82 has, the rattle is not one of them. We've got an extra gear so maybe related to that being different. A different weight fluid may help in our case? Calmer, the MT82 guru, recommends AMSOIL 75W-90 Manual Transmission & Transaxle Gear Lube in the Mustang. In time once out of warranty, I figure some will give it a try in the Bronco. I tried other OEM spec oil and in the cold still have the rattle. Started early on after the trip home from the dealer. No noise before leaving. Left it idle in neutral and specifically listened for it. I've been holding off doing anything for a bit to be sure the AB actually fixes it. So far, seems like a 50-50% chance of no change.

I replaced the transmission fluid with BG synchro shift II, but there is zero difference

 

[USSCajun]

The skills of certified mechanics, installing these transmissions have nothing to do with the problems that we are experiencing, but rather the fact that these transmissions are poorly designed. For many years Mustang owners have been complaining about similar problems with their manual transmissions made by Getrag..

I sold my Mustang GT with the Chinese made Getrag, complete rubbish.

 

[Off road enthusiast]

I sold my Mustang GT with the Chinese made Getrag, complete rubbish.
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Considering thousands of complaints by Mustang owner and class action lawsuits, it is insanity stupid of FORD to keep using Getreg on their vehicles

 

[chrisphelan77]

Is the thought process at this point to go for the TSB or wait? Seeing some back and forth here. My appointment is the first week of March and I can't decide if its worth it (18k miles, 2022 7spd big bend 4 door with the synchro noise) I could always reschedule for this fall/winter.

 

[PWillette]

Is the thought process at this point to go for the TSB or wait? Seeing some back and forth here. My appointment is the first week of March and I can't decide if its worth it (18k miles, 2022 7spd big bend 4 door with the synchro noise) I could always reschedule for this fall/winter.

From what I've seen here, most have had the rattle return whether just the syncros TSB or a whole new trans. I'm holding out for a definitive fix but that's just me.

 

[chrisphelan77]

From what I've seen here, most have had the rattle return whether just the syncros TSB or a whole new trans. I'm holding out for a definitive fix but that's just me.

That is helpful.. I'm thinking the same thing.. It'll be warm here in Raleigh in a few weeks and I'll forget about it until 59k miles lol.

 

[PWillette]

That is helpful.. I'm thinking the same thing.. It'll be warm here in Raleigh in a few weeks and I'll forget about it until 59k miles lol.

Yep, it's crazy to think how many of these trucks in the southern states will never hear the rattle due to temps. Probably thousands will never hear the noise or be aware they have the issue.

 

[Blackcat]

That is helpful.. I'm thinking the same thing.. It'll be warm here in Raleigh in a few weeks and I'll forget about it until 59k miles lol.

I'm down the road in Charlotte and my 22 has the rattle. I"m going to wait until next winter to have it addressed. Hopefully by then, there will be a definitive fix.

 

[gregory.conklin]

I'm up in Alaska picked her up on 28 December. Has had the rattle in cold temps since day one. Nothing horrible but it is there and assuming its only going to get worse. I did end up buying the extended warranty from Granger because I think this is going to be an ongoing issue. From living in extreme environments for a long time I can you that most vehicles make a lot of funny noises when they get started in extreme cold. Good thing is my plans are to take her to my Florida home, I think she is a perfect beach area rig.

 

[RagnarKon]

Is the thought process at this point to go for the TSB or wait? Seeing some back and forth here. My appointment is the first week of March and I can't decide if its worth it (18k miles, 2022 7spd big bend 4 door with the synchro noise) I could always reschedule for this fall/winter.

From what I've seen here, most have had the rattle return whether just the syncros TSB or a whole new trans. I'm holding out for a definitive fix but that's just me.

I suspect most people who have had the TSB performed haven't had the issue return.

But obviously it's hard to tell. The issue is if the problem goes away, people just move on and forget about it and never follow-up. If people have the issue return, they're likely to jump online and talk about it. Makes it really hard to tell the success rate of this TSB fix.

Myself personally... issue has been fixed and everything has been great. But given some people have had the issue return I think it is reasonable to just stick it out until you are nearing the end of your factory warranty.

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