2.7L blown engine failure list . . 68 so far [Updated: December 13, 2022]

[69-300]

Update for ya’ll…got my Bronco back last week. Check out the photos of the new engine date. The Oil spout is much lower than the original and the sticker is black and to the side making it a little harder to get a picture for everyone. It is an AB and built in 22’.

So finally got to see my replacement engine - still not IN the car, just in the crate and it has the same black label, AB and Bronco MY21 mention.

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[KnoxGnater]

So finally got to see my replacement engine - still not IN the car, just in the crate and it has the same black label, AB and Bronco MY21 mention.

Did they estimate installation time once they start? My dealer is being very flighty on his answer.

 

[69-300]

Did they estimate installation time once they start? My dealer is being very flighty on his answer.

About a week is all I have gotten. Together with "its the first Bronco engine, so we want to go slow and careful" ....I am assuming at least two weeks assuming no additional parts needed.

 

[gjacobsn]

Have a Bronco fe with the attached sticker. Seems to me two others on that day have failed. I read the last 30 or so pages but cant find a good suggestio . Is there anything I should be doing to prevent a problem or just bend over and wait. Perhaps sell the vehicle or trade it? After going through the long dirt mountain process and then a 4 month airbag recall sitting at the dealer I'm not sure I want to sit around and wait for an engine replacement. I have about 600 miles on her now and seems fine, but I guess it's way too early....

 

[WRF3MD]

Have a Bronco fe with the attached sticker. Seems to me two others on that day have failed. I read the last 30 or so pages but cant find a good suggestio . Is there anything I should be doing to prevent a problem or just bend over and wait. Perhaps sell the vehicle or trade it? After going through the long dirt mountain process and then a 4 month airbag recall sitting at the dealer I'm not sure I want to sit around and wait for an engine replacement. I have about 600 miles on her now and seems fine, but I guess it's way too early....

I'd say it's too early to get rid of it yet, especially if you love it. @Lucchese and @VictoryLights have compiled a lot of good information but there's alot we still don't know. There's a whole lot of us that are waiting for bad news, a lot that haven't had any issues at all. Until Ford comes out with a statement we don't know how extensive the issue is.

 

[Jacksonholio]

1) @mmcq - thread** - July 22, 1146 mi
2) Jose Hernandez - posted - ~Dec 2
3) @jeremy.wilson237 - 1st post, further - Dec 8, 2012 mi
4) @ToddGinGA - 1st post, update - Dec 5, 1358 mi
5) @Bubbabow - 1st post, update - Nov 21, 4000 mi
6) @Nikole - 1st post - ~Nov 1, 2900 mi
7) @Hailey Jo - 1st post - Dec 4, 3581 mi
8) @Lance103222 - 1st post - Dec 23, 2024 mi, new 2.7L**
9) Seb Gray - posted, further - Jan 23, 3800 mi
10) @estone28 - thread** - Oct 21, 1466 mi
11) Steve Seale - posted - Oct 22, 003 mi
12) @Broncoshrimp - thread** - Sept 10, 2380 mi, new 2.7L
13) fbf of @bytheway - 1st post - Oct ?
14) @yogi_stvl - 1st post, further, updates - Sept 21, 1578 mi
15) charr124@BN - posted, 1st post, update - Oct 21, 1524 mi
16) @roofone - posted - Sept ?
17) @69 Mach I - thread** - Nov 14, 2744 mi, new 2.7L**
18) @Broncitis - posted, update - Nov 5, 2199 mi
19) @Broncitis - replacement failed - Dec 2, 2200 mi
20) @International_George - thread** - Dec 24, 1795 mi, new 2.7L**
21) @Slosh1 - update, further - Dec 31, 3163 mi
22) @JollyFolly - 1st post, update - Jan 8, 4552 mi, new 2.7L -AB
23) @SS Hawk - 1st post - Jan 8, 1238 mi
24) @69-300 - 1st post, update - Jan 11, 1700 mi
25) @Icarus - 1st post, update - Jan 12, 3153 mi, new 2.7L
26) @TravisC91 - 1st post, update - Jan 11, 1900 mi
27) @ChadJohnson - 1st post, update - Dec 10, 2900 mi
28) @Lv429 - 1st post - Jan 18, 2058 mi
29) - Confidential - Nov, ~3000 mi
30) @ScottTexas - 1st post, posted - Jan 19, 4171 mi
31) @matthiggins - 1st post - Jan 16, ~4900 mi
32) @yogi_stvl - replacement failed - Oct, 1580 mi
33) @blanchardsbronco - 1st post - Jan 29, 4412 mi
34) @CanuckJeff - 1st post, update - Feb 7, 2277 mi
35) @KnoxGnater - update - Feb 6, 6618 mi
36) @SLAY - 1st post - Feb 13, 984 mi
37) @Jaycefox - 1st post - Dec 11, 1166 mi
38) @KrazeeEyezKilla - 1st post, update - Feb 14, 2548 mi
39) @CA_Badlands - 1st post - Feb 22, 3184 mi
40) @Jon_MothaFkn_Adams - 1st post - Feb 24, 6986 mi
41) @Kess - 1st post - Feb 28, 1680 mi

** threads covering repair experiences - ( lines 17, 12, 10, 20, & 1 )

So far the engine build-dates run 21133 - 21281 - see how to read Engine Ser#
- over 93% are in '2-month Containment' range, 21159 - 21224
- see table & graphs below the photos

January '22 - Lima Plant Newsletter - § Quality, page-1
-- 'Nano valve supplier issue was resolved with more robust design and material changes at the supplier.'

February '22 - MotorTrend article by Justin Banner
-- ". . if you have experienced failure of your 2.7L Bronco V6 . . be sure to report it to the NHTSA through their Report a Problem link at the top of their website."

other blown engine reports:
- NHTSA Reports (Nat'l Hwy Traffic Safety Admin)
- 2 at WA dealer __ 1 at IL dealer __ 7 at TX dealer __ 1 at SC dealer

If Your Engine Fails - dealer service of course - also :
- good to call Ford Customer Care - expedite repair, communication, cover rental
- engine ser# would be helpful in B6g build-date tracking
-- or last-8 digits of VIN, then B6g can lookup engine ser#
- good to file report w NHTSA - request Ford replacement campaign
- perspective w @Bmadda work experience Ford dealer Service Depts

Confidential Reports - anonymous reporting option
- use B6g Conversation
- send message to 'Lucchese'
- engine ser# - (see label photos)
-- or last-8 digits of VIN
- pls include mileage & fail-date if possible

example Engine Ser# Labels -

- B6g trying to see if the failures are confined to a range of engine build-dates
- maybe they were mostly built in same couple months ? - see also 2.7 Failed Engine Tracking Thread

For 33 of the engine failures we have the build-date info

Engine Build-Date	Fail Date	Miles	'Seq#'
21133 - (13 May)​	Nov '21​	~3000​	c*​
21159 - (08 June)​	08 Jan '22​	4552​	120075​
21160 - (09 June)​	10 Sept '21​	2380​	120068​
21160 - (09 June)​	05 Nov '21​	2199​	120201​
21161 - (10 June)​	22 July '21​	1146​	120082​
21161 - (10 June)​	14 Nov '21​	2744​	120300​
21165 - (14 June)​	08 Jan '22​	1238​	120059​
21166 - (15 June)​	~ 01 Nov '21​	2900​	120417​
21166 - (15 June)​	12 Jan '22​	3153​	120435​
21167 - (16 June)​	29 Jan '22​	4412​	130408​
21168 - (17 June)​	21 Sept '21​	1578​	120383​
21169 - (18 June)​	10 Dec '21​	2900​	120315​
21172 - (21 June)​	28 Feb '22​	1680​	120159​
21175 - (24 June)​	24 Dec '21​	1795​	130942​
21179 - (28 June)​	11 Jan '22​	1900​	120662​
21179 - (28 June)​	13 Feb '22​	984​	120680​
21181 - (30 June)​	19 Jan '22​	4171​	120672​
21182 - (01 July)​	07 Feb '22​	2277​	120368​
21207 - (26 July)​	24 Feb '22​	6986​	130993​
21207 - (26 July)​	23 Dec '21​	2024​	131088​
21209 - (28 July)​	04 Dec '21​	3581​	130806​
21209 - (28 July)​	21 Oct '21​	1466​	131010​
21209 - (28 July)​	06 Feb '22​	6618​	131161​
21209 - (28 July)​	21 Nov '21​	4000​	131391​
21214 - (02 Aug)​	22 Feb '22​	3184​	131270​
21214 - (02 Aug)​	08 Dec '21​	2012​	131422​
21214 - (02 Aug)​	14 Feb '22​	2548​	131465​
21216 - (04 Aug)​	? Oct '21​	?​	?​
21224 - (12 Aug)​	05 Dec '21​	1358​	120196​
21224 - (12 Aug)​	11 Jan '22​	1700​	120369​
21224 - (12 Aug)​	11 Dec '21​	1166​	120464​
21224 - (12 Aug)​	31 Dec '21​	3163​	120480​
21281 - (08 Oct)​	18 Jan '22​	2058​	130834​

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Notes:
- in October a Ford Lima employee (@Jay3630, deleted soon after) made five posts re 'bad batch of brittle valves' - 'April batch' - see posts #1, #2, #3, #4, #5
- if the failures are caused by 'bad valves', maybe that 'April batch' has been working its way thru the system - then the problems could subside ?
- late October a Ford Service Technician wrote a post re nationwide frequency of failures - he said 'about thirty in the last month . . recorded in the Ford Technicians Forum page'

January '22 - Lima Plant Newsletter - § Quality, page-1
-- 'Nano valve supplier issue was resolved with more robust design and material changes at the supplier.'

Just under 2000 miles, had a hiccup but all seems good now. I'm in that 24 day clear window...so far. But need to get some miles on it.

 

[navi]

Have a Bronco fe with the attached sticker. Seems to me two others on that day have failed. I read the last 30 or so pages but cant find a good suggestio . Is there anything I should be doing to prevent a problem or just bend over and wait. Perhaps sell the vehicle or trade it? After going through the long dirt mountain process and then a 4 month airbag recall sitting at the dealer I'm not sure I want to sit around and wait for an engine replacement. I have about 600 miles on her now and seems fine, but I guess it's way too early....

If I could sell without taking any amount less than what I paid, I would. The odds of these motors lasting a regular lifetime don't seem good to me, and the replacement times are going to be long given the supply issues.

But the major resellers like Carmax and Carvana aren't offering jack squat at this point, so what can you do?

 

[KrazeeEyezKilla]

About a week is all I have gotten. Together with "its the first Bronco engine, so we want to go slow and careful" ....I am assuming at least two weeks assuming no additional parts needed.

Mine had estimated about a week. They pulled the failed engine yesterday (Tuesday) and started work on the new one. Fuel pump arrived today. Word is they are hoping to be done on Friday barring any hiccups.

 

[Cbiggs]

Just under 2000 miles, had a hiccup but all seems good now. I'm in that 24 day clear window...so far. But need to get some miles on it.

Same Julian date . Almost 12,000 miles on mine at this point. . Still concerned and really appreciate the work @Lucchese and @VictoryLights are doing as well.

 

[Carolina Jim]

There's a whole lot of us that are waiting for bad news, a lot that haven't had any issues at all. Until Ford comes out with a statement we don't know how extensive the issue is.

Amen Brother.

 

[Carolina Jim]

The odds of these motors lasting a regular lifetime don't seem good to me

That's the $64,000 question, eh? If Ford believed a shit-ton of these 2.7s wouldn't outlive the powertrain warranty, wouldn't it be in their interest to issue a recall?

 

[VictoryLights]

The silence of @Ford Motor Company on this thread says a lot. They respond to many other 1-2 page threads where owners have minor or one-off type issues.

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